Acropolis of Athens,
world's most striking extant ancient Greek monumental complex
The Marbles were stripped from the Acropolis and shipped to UK by Scottish nobleman 7th Earl Lord Elgin Thomas Bruce, who served as British ambassador to the Ottoman Empire (1799-1803). Elgin’s letter granted him permission to take the art objects as a personal gesture, after encouraging the British forces into Ottoman Egypt.
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The collection holds half of the surviving Parthenon: 247’ of the original 524’ frieze; 15 of 92 metopes; 17 figures from the pediments, and objects from other Acropolis temples. At first the art was publicly exhibited in Elgin’s Park Lane mansion, attracting interest from potential buyers. Then, invited by British Museum trustees, Elgin chose to sell to the British government, to pay his debts.
Elgin Marbles on display at the British Museum, 1961.
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In June 1816 a Commons’ Select Committee found the Marbles had been honourably acquired and would greatly increase Britain’s artistic wealth. The Committee set the price at £35,000, not the £74,000 that Elgin requested. The House won the vote for the purchase and a subsequent Act of Parliament gave the collection in perpetuity to British Museum trustees.
marble slabs were part of the frieze that ran around the ParthenonThe Chronicle
Britain never seriously considered returning the Elgin Marbles sculptures to Athens. Since c1890 successive governments have argued that:
1.they are more accessible in the British Museum;
2.their return will be a precedent that's regretted later;
3.Athens offered less security than London.
Architect Robert Smirke built the Elgin Room, finally completed in 1832 and later extended into adjacent galleries. Because the marble slabs were actually part of the frieze that ran around the Parthenon inside the peristyle, they should have been called the Parthenon Frieze.
Domestic consensus about keeping the Marbles broke down when Parliament debated their purchase. MP Hugh Hammersley urged the Commons for an amendment, saying Britain holds these marbles only in trust till they are demanded by the present, or future owners of Athens City. This was before the Greeks revolted against the Ottomans and, with British assistance, set up their own state in southern Balkan Peninsula. In 1834 the Bavarian regency, assisting Greece’s first king Otto, chose Athens as the kingdom’s new capital, inspired by old western civilisation!
Elgin’s marbles were acquired in 1801-5, but it was Greece’s entry into WW2 that reheated the issue. When Mussolini’s army invaded Greece from Italian-held Albania in Oct 1940, Britain and its Empire stood virtually alone in the war. The Greeks soon pushed the invaders back into Albania. Still reeling from defeat in France and from the Blitz, the British public could finally be optimistic about this Axis reversal.
Greek dictator Ioannis Metaxas feared precipitating a German attack, yet keeping Greece in the war was a major British policy. Winston Churchill wanted the war in Albania to become a major diversion against both Italy and Germany. For months British support for the Greek war effort was limited to scarce supplies, and the idea of British concessions to Greece couldn’t be negotiated until after Germany invaded Greece in Ap 1941. Greek nationalists also laid claim Britain’s Cyprus, with its majority Greek population.
The Marbles were discussed in The Times by writer H.B Fyfe in Dec 1940 when the British Museum’s objects were hidden in the old Aldwych Tube Station. Fyfe wanted a prime ministerial pledge to return the Marbles post-war, tangible proof of British gratitude to their Greek ally. By Jan 1941, 9 more Times articles appeared, for or agin Fyfe’s proposal.
Conservative MP Thelma Cazalet-Keir raised the issue in the Commons in late 1940, asking the prime minister for legislation to return the Marbles post-war. Being the intermediary between the British Museum and Parliament, Treasury undertook to prepare the government’s reply. In Jan 1941, Foreign Secretary Anthony Eden’s view was that the discussion required a neutral reply. But in its recommendation to the Treasury, the Foreign Office remained open to sympathetic consideration of the issue. Yet Lord Privy Seal Clement Attlee brought no legislation.
Melina Mercouri, Greek minister for Culture campaigned for the Marbles’ return until 1994. Later the rebuilt Acropolis Museum in Athens tried to offset counter-arguments i.e 1] safe-keeping and 2] accessibility. The rectangular cement core of its Parthenon Gallery was designed for the missing parts of the frieze!
1.they are more accessible in the British Museum;
2.their return will be a precedent that's regretted later;
3.Athens offered less security than London.
Architect Robert Smirke built the Elgin Room, finally completed in 1832 and later extended into adjacent galleries. Because the marble slabs were actually part of the frieze that ran around the Parthenon inside the peristyle, they should have been called the Parthenon Frieze.
Domestic consensus about keeping the Marbles broke down when Parliament debated their purchase. MP Hugh Hammersley urged the Commons for an amendment, saying Britain holds these marbles only in trust till they are demanded by the present, or future owners of Athens City. This was before the Greeks revolted against the Ottomans and, with British assistance, set up their own state in southern Balkan Peninsula. In 1834 the Bavarian regency, assisting Greece’s first king Otto, chose Athens as the kingdom’s new capital, inspired by old western civilisation!
Elgin’s marbles were acquired in 1801-5, but it was Greece’s entry into WW2 that reheated the issue. When Mussolini’s army invaded Greece from Italian-held Albania in Oct 1940, Britain and its Empire stood virtually alone in the war. The Greeks soon pushed the invaders back into Albania. Still reeling from defeat in France and from the Blitz, the British public could finally be optimistic about this Axis reversal.
Greek dictator Ioannis Metaxas feared precipitating a German attack, yet keeping Greece in the war was a major British policy. Winston Churchill wanted the war in Albania to become a major diversion against both Italy and Germany. For months British support for the Greek war effort was limited to scarce supplies, and the idea of British concessions to Greece couldn’t be negotiated until after Germany invaded Greece in Ap 1941. Greek nationalists also laid claim Britain’s Cyprus, with its majority Greek population.
The Marbles were discussed in The Times by writer H.B Fyfe in Dec 1940 when the British Museum’s objects were hidden in the old Aldwych Tube Station. Fyfe wanted a prime ministerial pledge to return the Marbles post-war, tangible proof of British gratitude to their Greek ally. By Jan 1941, 9 more Times articles appeared, for or agin Fyfe’s proposal.
Conservative MP Thelma Cazalet-Keir raised the issue in the Commons in late 1940, asking the prime minister for legislation to return the Marbles post-war. Being the intermediary between the British Museum and Parliament, Treasury undertook to prepare the government’s reply. In Jan 1941, Foreign Secretary Anthony Eden’s view was that the discussion required a neutral reply. But in its recommendation to the Treasury, the Foreign Office remained open to sympathetic consideration of the issue. Yet Lord Privy Seal Clement Attlee brought no legislation.
Melina Mercouri, Greek minister for Culture campaigned for the Marbles’ return until 1994. Later the rebuilt Acropolis Museum in Athens tried to offset counter-arguments i.e 1] safe-keeping and 2] accessibility. The rectangular cement core of its Parthenon Gallery was designed for the missing parts of the frieze!
We cannot judge Lord Elgin by today’s standards. While taking artworks would trigger disgrace now, during Elgin's era it was common for wealthy tourists to collect ancient treasures, including the Parthenon. As a genuine art lover, Elgin received authority to take what he wished.
In Aug 2013, UNESCO’s Director General for Culture wrote a letter to the Director of the British Museum and British Minister for Culture, proposing a mediation process. But the UK Government and the British Museum Trustees each declined in 2015; so Athens returned to reclaiming the artefacts via diplomatic-political means. Greece noted that its national goal, returning the Parthenon Sculptures to Athens, was agreed by UNESCO’s decision in Sept 2021.
In Aug 2013, UNESCO’s Director General for Culture wrote a letter to the Director of the British Museum and British Minister for Culture, proposing a mediation process. But the UK Government and the British Museum Trustees each declined in 2015; so Athens returned to reclaiming the artefacts via diplomatic-political means. Greece noted that its national goal, returning the Parthenon Sculptures to Athens, was agreed by UNESCO’s decision in Sept 2021.
Fragments of the Parthenon frieze remain, in other European museums. Recently Palermo reported that a Goddess Artemis fragment belonging to the Parthenon’s eastern frieze on loan from Sicily’s Archaeological Museum will remain in Athens. And the Vatican will return Marble fragments from the Vatican Museums, "donations from the Pope".
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Elgin probably paid for the marbles. Lining pockets always worked, and the authorities would have told him to say nothing. What after the marbles? Are all museums to be made to return all foreign exhibits? Will our museums all become filled with native objects? It would be a sad world.
One man's treasure is another man's trash. What the Greeks saw as shameless plunder, the British saw as a reward for their forces being supportive.
Eventually there will be nothing left in British museum lol. Everyone country wants their own heritages returned. Sundowning Britain
Cro
Elgin may well have paid for the marbles, if not in cash then in services rendered. But it would be terrible if all museums were forced to return every object/document that they hold from all other countries. That would mean that I would never ever see Swedish or Danish or Dutch collectables, unless I spent a lot of time there.
No, most objects and documents would stay in the museums they currently sit in, unless the legitimate owners want them back and the courts agree.
I think that the Elgin Marbles genuinely mean much more to the Greeks than they do to the British. Therefore I say, "Give 'em back already!"
They are not really high on the British artistic sensibilities. However I do think this is a unique case. For example I would not want Mona Lisa to be removed from the Louvre and all the other artworks which are not currently in their country of origin to be sent home!
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Joe
it happens all over the world. Consider the art, artefacts and lands of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders which might have been given to foreigners as legitimate gifts or exchanged products. Even more likely, I would imagine, they were taken without consent.
Since power changes over the centuries, and views change as well, we cannot assume that the possible return of cultural heritage items means as much to those distant museums as it does to First Nations people today.
roentare
you would be correct if EVERY single object/document was returned from other museums in other countries.
Let us say that when the tough facts of colonisation and war crimes against humanity became clearer in the 20th century, museums could still negotiate with sensitivity. For example: if I send back Bronze plaques from the Kingdom of Benin, I can expect .... from you. Tough, but not impossible.
bazza
even if the museum's objects were not really high on the British artistic sensibilities, I agree with you... I would still not want all the artworks that are not currently in their country of origin to be sent home! The trouble is: how do the courts decide who was the real owner originally? and was the object stolen, battered or gifted centuries ago?
"The Elgin Marbles: Should they be Returned to Greece?" by Christopher Hitchens, 1998
In this first full-length work on this fiercely debated issue, Christopher Hitchens recounts the history of these precious sculptures and forcefully makes the case for their return to Greece. Drawing on the artistic, moral, legal and political perspectives of the argument, Hitchens's eloquent prose makes The Elgin Marbles an invaluable contribution to one of the most important cultural controversies of our times.
In spite of your clear short history, for once I do not have an opinion either way.
Amazon
thank you for the Hitchens reference which I read 30 years ago. I didn't always like his politics, but he wrote history very well, including The Elgin Marbles - which he concluded should be returned.
Andrew,
many people outside UK and Greece would agree with you. I would say that on moral grounds, Greece is in the right. On legal grounds, there is no right side... yet.
The marbles should definitely be returned to Greece. Art is not a global storage affair; it should belong to where it has been created. Wherever the original owner is known, the works should be returned.
Hello Hels, I remember the awe I felt when I encountered the Elgin gallery in the British Museum. I do not feel that art needs to be returned if it was not considered stolen or plundered at the moment it left the country. By the way, have you seen the notices for the upcoming Sotheby's sale for Ilse Hesselberger's (1888-1941--note the sad, tell-tale death date) Bronzino? It was commandeered by the Nazi's but restituted to Ilse's heirs, who are now selling it for charity. (A more frivolous lesson here if you look at the painting's history is that we all should have been buying Old Masters in 1927!):
https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2023/master-paintings-sculpture-part-i/portrait-of-a-young-man-with-a-quill-and-a-sheet?locale=en
--Jim
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It is an important subject, yes. Art does not necessarily belong wherever it was originally created.. otherwise every single Italian painting around the world would be sent back to Italy and every single piece of porcelain art would be sent back to China.
If, however, the objects were stolen, given away without proper consent or bartered under pressure, then the courts must find the true legal owners and negotiate with both nations with dignity.
Even after WW2 was over, the restitution, repatriation and return of cultural objects back to their legitimate owners is still taking time. But it is a model that other thefts may be able to be resolved.
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Portrait of a Young Man with a Quill and Sheet of Paper is a perfect example of the issues being discussed. The courts had to find: the sales documentation from 1927, who took the painting from Ilse Hesselberger? was the Bronzino paid for (even at a ridiculously low amount)? what if no child or grandchild survived the Holocaust?
I am glad it only took from 1941 until 2022 *deep irony* for the painting to be returned to the family, out of the Berlin building used by the German Parliamentary Society! It will take much longer for the Elgin Marbles.
Luiz
it seems inevitable that every New World country that was colonialised by the Great Powers in earlier centuries, lost many of its treasures. Before the riches can be returned to Brazil etc, there has to be both the good will and the legal processes to gather the evidence and to guarantee the return. Not easily done, as we have all seen.
There was an irony that the treasures of Troy, taken back to Berlin by Schliemann, were looted by Russians after WWII, and now both Germany and Turkey want them back!
I do think the Elgin Marbles should be returned now. They are wanted back where they belong and there really is no excuse to keep them any more.
Sue
If returning the Elgin Marbles to Athens seems impossible, returning the Treasures of Troy to Turkey is mega impossible. The German government knows that their German archaeologist "discovered" the cultural treasure in 1873 and therefore they rightfully own the items "stolen" by the Soviet Union in WW2. Russia knew the Nazi troops looted or destroyed thousands of art treasures in the Soviet Union, so the Treasures of Troy goes some way to pay for Russian losses. Neither case makes sense.
A scathing public letter signed by the Guatemalan Collective for the Defense of Heritage claims a Mayan throne was illegally exported to New York’s Museum of Metropolitan Art against the will of “Indigenous organizations, institutions and archeologists.” The work, titled Throne I, was sent to the Met for restoration, after which it went on view for the museum’s exhibition Lives of the Gods: Divinity in Maya Art. Guatemalan officials granted a “rare temporary export authorization” for the eight-century throne and a similarly dated panel as part of a “reciprocal loan agreement” with the museum. “We are vigilant of the actions of the corrupt rulers, of the excesses they carry out, who twist the laws when they see fit and apply them severely against individual and collective human rights defenders in this country,” the letter reads. The letter calls for both artifacts to be returned and placed in a “special protected place” in Guatemala’s National Museum of Archeology and Ethnology.
A Metropolitan Museum of Art spokesperson told ARTNews. “We have been very honored to work with conservators, archaeologists, and Maya community members from Guatemala over the past several years on this project. These loans were approved by various governing bodies in recognition of the importance of the project’s research contributions.”
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Daniel
Thank you. Although this is a totally different case, two things stand out as being particularly important:
1. Indigenous organisations, institutions and archaeologists are the focus of the debate, and
2. The owners referred to actions of the corrupt rulers, of the excesses they carry out, who twisted the laws when they wanted. I assume if the corrupt rulers applied themselves against collective human rights defenders in the country of origin, they did so many centuries ago.
I changed my mind about this when I actually saw them in London where they were beautifully exhibited and given that they actually belong to the world and human civilization , I think they need to stay where they are . If they had stayed in Greece they wouldn't exist anymore . I understand that the Turks used the Parthenon as an ammunition storage and that bits of stone from the Parthenon, were being used by peasants to build their homes. I don't know this for sure but have read this . I accept that this may be propaganda .London is a world city with people coming from everywhere so I think its a wonderful thing to have these objects and many other things from around the world displayed there so we can all get a sense of our human history . The only thing I don't approve of are the human skulls which were collected in the 19 th century to demonstrate that certain races were inferior to other according head \ skull shape .
mem
You have come to the same conclusions as successive British governments came to, ever since the late 19th century:
1.the marbles are more accessible to people from all over the world, if they are in the British Museum;
2.their return to Greece would be an unstoppable precedent that the British (and other host nations) could bitterly regret later;
3.the Acropolis of Athens could never offer the same security that London offers.
However correct these three points are, they don't make the original owners feel any better.
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