03 January 2023

"Bible John", Glasgow murderer (1968-9). What have we learned?


 
Newspapers searched for Bible John all over the UK
using the composite drawing of the suspect from witnesses
Glasgow Evening Times, Feb 2018

Murders are usually done on known contacts, from anger or hatred, and are fairly spontaneous. 3 Queensland murders this year showed NO knowledge of the victims, endless months of preparation and visible record keeping on the Web. Plus the killers had guns!! Compare with 3 Scottish murders.

I]In Feb 1968 a naked 25-year-old nurse Patricia Docker was in a Glasgow garage. Her body, showing blunt force trauma to the face and head, was close to her home. She’d been strangl­ed and her handbag, watch and clothes were miss­ing. Dock­er, from nearby Renfrew­shire Hospital, had told her parents she’d spend the ev­en­ing dancing at a ballroom and when she did­ not re­turn home, her parents weren’t anx­ious. Yet her postmortem confirmed stran­g­ulation. Rigor mortis showed she’d died shortly after leaving Barr­owland Ballroom.

II]In Aug 1969 31-year-old Jemima MacDonald danced all evening in Barrowland Ballroom. She attended Bar­rowland while her sis­ter, Margaret O'Brien, took care of Jemima’s 3 ch­ild­ren. Mac­Don­­­ald was seen with a well-dressed tall man, aged 25-35. The well-spoken man had a Gl­aswegian accent and shar­ed brief bib­lic­al quot­at­ions with them

When her sister failed to return, O’Brien disc­overed her sister's bat­tered body in a dere­lict tenement. A postmortem found MacDon­ald had been rap­ed and badly beaten on the face, before she was st­r­angled with her stock­ings. Like Docker, she was menstruating when she died.

Eyewitnesses carefully described MacDonald's man, showing strong sim­il­arities between the Docker & MacDonald cases: both women were at Barrow­land Ballroom before their murder, were beaten and strangled to death, were menst­ruat­ing, and had handbags taken from the crime scene

III]In Oct 1969, 29-year-old Helen Puttock was found by a worker behind her flat garden in Glas­gow. She was naked, beaten on the face, raped and strangled with her stockings. Her handbag items had been scattered, and there was a deep bite into her thigh. As with the 2 prev­ious vict­ims, Helen had been men­st­ruat­ing at the time of her murd­er, sanit­ary pad under her arm.

Puttock and her sister Jean Langford had been to Barrowland Ballroom where they met two men named John, dancing until all four left for home. Jean’s John walked to George Square to board a bus, while the ot­hers hailed a taxi and chatted. At home, Langford left Puttock and her John inside the taxi. Langford later told police that her sister's John was a tee­totaller who quoted from the Old Testament. John referred to Barrowland as an adult­er­ous den of iniquity, saying he disapproved of married women dancing. Puttock’s John had been a slim, well dressed and tall man with overlapping front teeth, called John Templeton-or-Sem­pleson-or-Emerson.

Helen Puttock’s murder raised susp­icions that all 3 murders had been done by one man. Each victim had been a mother and had met her murd­erer at Bar­rowland Ball­room. Each had been escorted home by a man, raped and strangled, and each was menstruat­ing at time of death.

After finding Puttock’s body, a new composite drawing of the suspect was created. Lang­ford saw the earlier im­age cr­eat­ed after Je­mima Mac­Don­ald’s murder and saw an ex­cel­lent like­ness. 1970 was the first time Scottish police used the ph­o­tofit sys­t­em re murder suspects. 100+ det­ect­ives worked full-time on the case, 50,000 witness statements were taken, 5,000+ potent­ial susp­ects were questioned and Langford viewed 300+ id­entity par­ad­es. Off­ic­ers believ­ed the killer died, been gaoled for other crimes or locked in an asylum. Or he may have left Gl­as­gow.

victims L to R: Pat Docker, Jemima MacDonald and Helen Puttock
BBC Scotland

Detective Chief Inspector Les Brown spoke to a detective who’d tak­en a man to a hospital, after arresting him at Bar­r­ow­land Ballroom in 1968. Although the suspect John White had needed stitches in his head, he fled when his hand­cuffs opened. But after Detective Brown wrote of his sus­picions, the man arrived for a DNA sam­p­le. It was negative.

Well after the Bible John killings, some women claimed that they’d been sexually assaulted after leaving Barr­ow­land eg in Apr 1969 Hannah Martin had left the dance hall with a tall man. But during the drive home, the man's sex­ual aggression left Mart­in assaulted and raped. She gave birth to a daughter at Glas­gow Royal Maternity Hos­p­ital in Jan 1970. Was the daughter the one link to the real identity of Bible John?

Peter Tobin was convicted in May 2007 of the murder of Polish student Angelika Kluk who’d been rap­ed, beaten and stabbed to death; The fact that Tobin attacked Kluk so ferociously, hid her body then fled to Lon­don prior to his arrest suggested pre-planned work. Also note that Tobin's 3 former wives reported being impr­is­­oned, beaten and raped at his hands; each stated he’d been driven to extreme physical violence by menst­ruation. NB Tobin was a staunch Cat­holic; the alias that Bible John gave Jean Lang­ford and Helen Putt­ock in 1969 was like one of the pseudonyms often used by Tobin: John Semple

NB Tobin relocated from Glasgow to Brigh­ton in Aug 1969 after marry­ing his first wife, whom he had met at Bar­r­owland Ballroom in 1968. From Aug 1969 Tobin lived in Brighton for 20 years, and from the late 1980s he alternated between both cities. So detectives specul­ated that con­vic­t­ed serial killer Peter Tobin may have been Bible John, or not.

Criminologist David Wilson investigated Tobin's case for 3 years. He believed Tobin was Bib­le John dur­ing Tobin's trial for the 1991 murder of teenage Dinah Mc­Nic­ol, one of the bod­ies found in his Margate gard­en. The eviden­ce included strik­ing simil­arities be­tween trial testim­ony from a friend of Mc­Nicol's who had been with her on her last night and the con­vers­at­ion with Bib­le John Lang­ford had had that night.

The Police init­iated Operation Anagram in 2006 to trace Tobin’s move­ments over decades and to det­er­mine his pot­ential culpability in other crim­es. Not only was Tobin in Brighton when the final two Bible John mur­­ders occ­ur­red, but Tobin's DNA was check­ed again­st the semen sample for Bible John and failed to match.

Barrowland Ballroom, Glasgow
Wiki

After 2002’s Bible John Murders Rev­iew, no further U.K murders were attributed to him, so the manhunt for this 1968 murderer remains open. Hopefully the Qld murders will be understood more quickly. Thank you to Bible John: Creation of a Serial Killer, BBC


16 comments:

Ben Smee said...

Thank goodness you noticed.

Gareth Train, the owner of a rural Queensland property where six people were shot and killed, had become deeply entangled in an online conspiracy community, where he posted about a mistrust of police and claims the Port Arthur massacre was a false-flag operation. Gareth appears to have been a prolific poster on an alternative website that posts conspiracy, anti-authoritarian and other articles. He said in one recent post he had been “ark homesteading for the past five years preparing to survive tomorrow”.

The Queensland police commissioner said there had been a lot of ammunition and weaponry at the property at Wieambilla. Did no one see the online threats and conspiracies? Did no one notice the ammunition?

Deb said...

If my daughter had wanted to go to Barrowland Ballroom after the first murder, I would have stopped it or I would have double checked the security inside.

roentare said...

The murders described here are so gruesome and scary. I do not think I want to go out again for a long while

Andrew said...

I didn't realise how dangerous ballroom dancing could be.

Unsolved crimes bring no justice.

Hels said...

Ben

I knew after the murders that Gareth was a prolific poster on an alternative website that posts conspiracy, anti-authoritarian and other articles. Of course it was too late to save the victims by then, but did nobody read this appalling material in the months _before_ the murders? Did anyone tell the police about the alternative website material, but the police did nothing about it? Where did the killers get guns and ammunition from?

Hels said...

Deb

Agreed. There was probably no such thing as a security camera in 1968, but they certainly could have put security officers at the front door and in the hall. However after the first murder I would have warmly encouraged my daughter to never ever leave the ballroom with a man she didn't know VERY well. The killer obviously had a mission to cleanse the community of young women who might/would have sex with him.

Hels said...

roentare

What a nightmare *nod*. The killer had the entire city terrified, especially since he targeted young women, used the darkness of night for his crimes, and seemed to be doing the murders in God's name.

Hels said...

Andrew

the ballroom was a perfect pick up spot for victims.. everyone was dancing, loving the music, looking attractive and escaping their parents' supervision. Even in coldish Glasgow, 1968 was a time of fun, freedom and (apparently) sex.

Mandy said...

What a horrible set of crimes. It's always fascinating how they do manage to solve crimes - based on new technology - decades after the fact. I hope these crimes are solved and the women given justice

hels said...

Mandy the mothers, fathers and siblings of the dead girls died from old age and never got the information they needed, let alone justice. But the community still needs to pursue the truth; noone wants to be known as Bible John's hunting ground.

It is a bit like Salem Mass. There isn't a person on the planet who wouldn't immediately think of witch killing.

Luiz Gomes said...

Boa tarde. Desejo uma quarta-feira com muita saúde e paz. Com votos de um excelente ano novo e um mês de janeiro com muitas conquistas e vitórias.

Hels said...

Luiz

do police or police informants not have access to the dark web and its detailed murder plans/conspiracies?

mem said...

The thing that puzzles me is how did he know they were menstruating????

Hels said...

mem

Bible John was very skilled in his anti-women behaviour. Not only did he have all the Biblical quotes learned off by heart, but he seemed to be socially appealing to the young vulnerable women he targeted. The survivors said that when he asked them for sex, those who said no because they were menstruating were immediately taken away from the Ballroom.

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Hels said...

daroscomvn

thank you for reading about Bible John. The story is still fascinating, 55 years later.