tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post8641737763559067411..comments2024-03-29T15:04:20.549+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: Archibald Ramsay, the Right Club and British FascismHelshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-58929619736197176282023-04-19T14:30:45.934+10:002023-04-19T14:30:45.934+10:00Kuudere-Kun
Yes! Ramsay established the Right Clu...Kuudere-Kun<br /><br />Yes! Ramsay established the Right Club in 1939 with every member of the aristocracy he knew was sympathetic to his cause The membership list might have been secretive at first, but it didn't shock anyone that the Duke of Wellington, the Duke of Westminster and others were keen participants. <br /><br />Any connection to Napoleon was outside the remit of this post. But I can still look at some books in the near future. Thank you.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-77847619061356470492023-04-19T06:46:11.573+10:002023-04-19T06:46:11.573+10:00One member the Right Club I'd like to know det...One member the Right Club I'd like to know details on is the 5th Duke of Wellington. The fact that it's so popular to compare Hitler and Napoleon I find very ironic considering the Heir of Napoleon was fighting the Nazis while the Heir of Wellington was collaborating with them. The First Wellington expressed Anti-Semitic and Pro-Slavery views though his Wikipedia Page says little about that.Kuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-45070405946580879922022-11-09T15:27:54.563+11:002022-11-09T15:27:54.563+11:00Kuudere-Kun
Agreed! Alliances are made between na...Kuudere-Kun<br /><br />Agreed! Alliances are made between nations or groups that have more in common with each other than they have disagreements re their principles or re practices. As soon as the shared principles outweigh the despised principles, the alliance will fall apart. Two examples:<br /><br />1. In Aug 1939, Germany and the Soviet Union signed a non-aggression treaty. Stalin's forces even attacked Poland and partitioned the Polish state. But the German-Russian Alliance collapsed when Germany expanded eastwards, killing Russians and trying to grab Russian land.<br /><br />2. Neutral USA bitterly fought against entering WW2 to help Britain and France, but changed their minds when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour in December 1941.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-28019976924253111722022-11-09T08:04:15.654+11:002022-11-09T08:04:15.654+11:00For the most Mosley was a proper Mussolini style F...For the most Mosley was a proper Mussolini style Fascists who's relationship with British nazis was oftne hostile, jsut as Mussolini and Hitler were Hostils to each for following the Germany destruction of Fascist Austria.Kuudere-Kunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06537085979461349854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-62541367933396468422016-02-16T15:39:37.356+11:002016-02-16T15:39:37.356+11:00Joseph
I know it is morbid, but I am totally fasc...Joseph<br /><br />I know it is morbid, but I am totally fascinated in Sir Oswald Mosley, Captain Ramsay and The Right Club, Tyler Kent, Anna Wolkoff, William Joyce and their colleagues. Now I will have to read the book to learn about Maxwell Knight, Majorie Amor etc. Thank you.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-9763629010749227882016-02-15T16:44:48.909+11:002016-02-15T16:44:48.909+11:00Hel, here is a book that picks up all the key play...Hel, here is a book that picks up all the key players: Rendezvous at the Russian Tea Rooms, by Paul Willetts.<br /><br />As London teetered on the brink of the Blitz in the summer of 1940, an extraordinary and potentially catastrophic spy plot was unfolding in the streets, cafes and clubs of the blacked-out capital. Two foreign agents (Anna Wolkoff, a Russian Fascist and Tyler Kent, a US worker in that nation's Moscow embassy) from two very different walks of life were working undercover to try to overthrow the British government and change the course of the war.<br /><br />One man stood in their way… an eccentric, dapper MI5 spymaster (Maxwell Knight) who was noted for personally befriending his staff and liked nothing better than taking his pet bear cub Bessie for walks around Chelsea on a lead. Their meetings were held the Russian Tea Rooms in London.<br /><br /><br /><br />Josephnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-9840735932874933072014-04-29T00:42:36.355+10:002014-04-29T00:42:36.355+10:00Mandy
I think there is a great deal of history ye...Mandy<br /><br />I think there is a great deal of history yet to be written about Germany's plans to invade mainland Britain.... and about the possible response the Germans might have received from Britain's own Fascists.<br /><br />It is not a popular topic for Brits to read, however. Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-47153273554464450602014-04-28T03:45:10.700+10:002014-04-28T03:45:10.700+10:00I remember that post! We spent this past weekend i...I remember that post! We spent this past weekend in Normandy though and visited the American Cemetery. Having recently been so disheartened by how close we had come to authoritarianism, I was moved to see how carefully planned and executed the Normandy landings were. It occurred to me to question popular opinion that the Germans lost the war and to consider that the Allies won it. Mandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11931248631361366673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-19779667603783935702014-04-28T02:46:52.910+10:002014-04-28T02:46:52.910+10:00Mandy
A lot disturbing, agreed.
An alternative h...Mandy<br /><br />A lot disturbing, agreed.<br /><br />An alternative history of WW2 might not have been so radically unbelievable. Many people believed that the German army invaded and controlled the four channel islands, specifically to launch themselves onto the British mainland. <br /><br />They FULLY developed on Jersey and Guernsey every system that they would need in London, Glasgow and Manchester etc - German currency, German Central Time, bunkers, airports, railways, shops, post offices, hospitals, military parade grounds and so on.<br /><br />See http://melbourneblogger.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/the-channel-islands-occupation.htmlHelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-15131685800211695082014-04-28T02:07:42.218+10:002014-04-28T02:07:42.218+10:00I've recently read the alternative-history nov...I've recently read the alternative-history novel <i>Dominion</i> by C J Sansom in which Churchill did not become Prime Minister and Hitler won the war. In the novel, Germany has dominion over the UK and the author speculates that it would have been all too easy to find brown shirt and right wing support for German plans, including the eventual expulsion of Jews from UK. It is all a little disturbing because what the author talks about in the book very closely mirrors what we are currently seeing in the press with respect to the rise of UKIP. Mandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11931248631361366673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-12408323522427453712014-04-22T20:06:51.248+10:002014-04-22T20:06:51.248+10:00Jane and Lance
The Mitford siblings deserve a blo...Jane and Lance<br /><br />The Mitford siblings deserve a blog post on their own... I can't believe I have not written about them in 5 years of blogging.<br /><br />The 2nd Baron Redesdale and his wife were nasty Fascists and you might have expected their children to follow. In fact Diana, Unity and Thomas were definitely Fascists, both girls adoring Hitler. Thomas refused to fight for Britain against the Germans. Pamela was a nasty anti-Semite but I don't think she was a paid up member of anti Fascist organisation.<br /><br />Nancy, Jessica and Deborah seemed very liberal, very literate women who loathed Fascism. They saved the family's reputation.<br /><br /><br /><br />Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-50863706578370047522014-04-22T18:30:18.464+10:002014-04-22T18:30:18.464+10:00Hello Helen,
Gosh, what plotting and planning and...Hello Helen,<br /><br />Gosh, what plotting and planning and intrigue you have revealed here. The connections between all these people are labyrinthine no wonder that researchers continue to try and find the truth of it all. And, will it ever really be understood we wonder?<br /><br />Ramsay certainly was a central figure but we knew very little of all of this. We have long been intrigued by the Mitford Girls and their respective involvements in things aristocratic and political. Such a tangled web....Jane and Lance Hattatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16831890261259302647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-21859070363534684482014-04-22T18:10:55.771+10:002014-04-22T18:10:55.771+10:00Deb
I didn't know Ramsay's name until the...Deb<br /><br />I didn't know Ramsay's name until the film came out. Yet Spartacus Educational said that in 1935, secret agents from Nazi Germany established the anti-Semitic Nordic League. Initially known as the White Knights of Britain, Ramsay soon emerged as the leader of this organisation. The Nordic League was primarily an upper-middle-class association, thus helping Ramsay become the unofficial leader of the extreme right in Britain. I wonder if that was true.<br /><br />Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-49090364059995313052014-04-22T15:42:03.188+10:002014-04-22T15:42:03.188+10:00We covered a lot of these people in courses, inclu...We covered a lot of these people in courses, including Sir Oswald Mosley and Lord Haw Haw. And you noted ages ago that The British Union of Fascists' major supporter was the newspaper mega-magnate Harold Harmsworth, 1st Viscount Rothermere. Plus 2nd Baron Redesdale and two of his Mitford daughters. But I don't remember Archibald Ramsay's name.<br /><br />Debnoreply@blogger.com