tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post8276888814552529179..comments2024-03-29T15:04:20.549+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: Sherlock Holmes' martial arts 1890s - real life Vs fiction?Helshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-74976947344699215632011-12-24T00:56:13.579+11:002011-12-24T00:56:13.579+11:00Martial Arts Supply
thank you.
I have added a ref...Martial Arts Supply<br />thank you.<br /><br />I have added a reference to a topic you may well know about already. <br /><br />Hermes has an article about Eugen Sandow single-handedly changing the way Britons thought about physical fitness. And as Conan Doyle had been following Sandow's training methods for several years, the regime left the novelist in superb physical condition. <br /><br />http://theedwardians.blogspot.com/2011/12/man-whose-muscle-made-women-faint-how.htmlHelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-73415480451159654982011-03-16T18:14:32.643+11:002011-03-16T18:14:32.643+11:00Great post thanks for sharing such informative pos...Great post thanks for sharing such informative post.Martial Arts Supplyhttp://www.blackbeltshop.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-54575809367265983382010-12-28T09:21:48.328+11:002010-12-28T09:21:48.328+11:00H Niyazi,
I understood the Three Pipe reference, b...H Niyazi,<br />I understood the Three Pipe reference, but I would not have guessed you were a secret Sherlock Holmes fan :) <br /><br />I too have an unexpected pleasure in reading crime novels, but by modern British (usually women) writers - Ruth Rendell, Reginald Hill, PD James, Minette Walters etc.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-28504894756800527182010-12-28T00:02:26.736+11:002010-12-28T00:02:26.736+11:00Wonderful post! Always delighted to hear more tidb...Wonderful post! Always delighted to hear more tidbits related to ACDoyle, and that pic/moustache is phenomenal!<br /><br />As you may gather from the name of my own blog, I am quite fond of ACDoyles most famous creation - I felt a pang of guilt recently when I was told a google search for 'Three pipe problem' finds my site first, and then the Sherlock quote from Red Headed League. My apologies Mr Doyle!<br /><br />Have a great rest of 2010 Helen!! Keep up the amazing work.<br /><br />HAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02091875643921165081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-78695624314077882392010-12-27T03:12:13.058+11:002010-12-27T03:12:13.058+11:00Hermes
even his belief in fairies *nod* Conan Doy...Hermes<br /><br />even his belief in fairies *nod* Conan Doyle was such a complex man, and he was living and writing in such a complex era. There are more PhDs yet to be written about him, I think.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-22293783946071677812010-12-27T02:57:16.055+11:002010-12-27T02:57:16.055+11:00Tony,
I was going to say to you yesterday that a...Tony,<br /><br />I was going to say to you yesterday that a great example of Japanese influence in the arts can be seen in the works of Christopher Dresser, the subject of my last post. He travelled to Japan and spent time there. But your example of William Steers is even better.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-1828236754442916402010-12-27T02:51:56.254+11:002010-12-27T02:51:56.254+11:00And his belief in fairies. The Cottingley incident...And his belief in fairies. The Cottingley incident has all sorts of fascinating characters and points of great pyschoogical interest.Hermeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968366076064269729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-4994031624993155552010-12-27T02:44:44.697+11:002010-12-27T02:44:44.697+11:00Viola,
I didn't read Sherlock Holmes books OR ...Viola,<br />I didn't read Sherlock Holmes books OR Biggles books in primary school because they were for boys *ick*. But my husband certainly did! I was too busy reading Anne of Green Gables, Little Women, What Katy Did etc.<br /><br />But even if we did read the books in primary school, it would have been a rather simple reading of the stories and characters. That is probably why I am finding Sir Arthur Conan Doyle so interesting now! Especially his belief in spiritualism.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-57253545184155255592010-12-26T17:25:22.361+11:002010-12-26T17:25:22.361+11:00One of the best example of pre-WW1 "Orientali...One of the best example of pre-WW1 "Orientalism" pertaining to both visual and martial arts was William Steers' home and jujitsu gymnasium in the Surrey Downs. Steers was a passionate Japanophile and his home/gym elegantly melded the English Arts and Crafts aesthetic with that of traditional Japanese art and craft. There's an illustrated article on that subject at http://www.bartitsu.org/index.php/2010/08/william-e-steers-and-the-hilltop-dojo/ .Tony Wolfhttp://www.bartitsu.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-78774227386863059332010-12-26T14:57:30.580+11:002010-12-26T14:57:30.580+11:00Hello Hels,
Thank you so much for all of your fasc...Hello Hels,<br />Thank you so much for all of your fascinating posts during the year.<br /><br />I didn't realise that Conan Doyle was interested in martial arts! I like the series with Jeremy Brett but I haven't read any of the books yet. My husband loves to read them.Violahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08046603677301666579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-53040668707113372622010-12-26T10:52:28.140+11:002010-12-26T10:52:28.140+11:00peter,
Thank you. I absolutely agree.
In Britain...peter,<br />Thank you. I absolutely agree. <br /><br />In Britain and France, in particular, we can see a delight with Japanese taste in woodblocks, paintings, prints, architecture, textiles, furniture and garden design etc. No doubt the World Fairs had a great deal to do it.<br /><br />What I had not previously considered was that an interest in things Japanese might influence the NON-art world.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-65413526938485169212010-12-26T10:35:40.390+11:002010-12-26T10:35:40.390+11:00Helen -- There was a fascination in Europe with t...Helen -- There was a fascination in Europe with things Japanese after Japan's opening in 1868. The rich merchants of Britain's northwest, for example, collected Japanese prints (eg by Hokusai) and ceramics, some of which can still be found in the region's small public museums.peterhttp://www.vukutu.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-42110731402889980062010-12-25T22:10:12.230+11:002010-12-25T22:10:12.230+11:00Tony
you are a champion. It is information like th...Tony<br />you are a champion. It is information like this that makes blogging worthwhile. Thank you.<br /><br />Hermes, <br />talking of making blogging worthwhile, martial arts is not a topic I would normally ever tackle. But Arthur Conan Doyle is a Victorian I come back to regularly in this blog. Isn't blogging grand?<br /><br />Happy and healthy New Year to you both.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-64755925114868816882010-12-25T21:47:20.560+11:002010-12-25T21:47:20.560+11:00One further note is that Mrs. Watts later devised ...One further note is that Mrs. Watts later devised an eccentric system of physical culture (fitness and deportment) training, based in roughly equal parts on calisthenic jujitsu and on her studies of ancient Greek athletics. You might like to read my article on that subject at http://www.bartitsu.org/index.php/2010/05/the-martial-athletics-of-diana-watts/ .Tony Wolfhttp://www.bartitsu.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-75979769544635679222010-12-25T21:41:08.467+11:002010-12-25T21:41:08.467+11:00The most direct link was that Sadakazu Uyenishi wa...The most direct link was that Sadakazu Uyenishi was Watts' primary jujitsu instructor. Uyenishi was among the four Japanese jujitsuka brought to London by E.W. Barton-Wright. Thus, the jujitsu she learned was probably similar, if not identical to that practiced at the Bartitsu Club.<br /><br />If you're interested, an electronic edition of Mrs. Watts' book is freely available via GoogleBooks. <br /><br />Oddly, as far as I know there was never any allusion to the Conan Doyle/"baritsu" connection in period self defence literature. That connection doesn't seem to have been made until the mid-20th century. <br /><br />By the way, while it's accurate to say that Barton-Wright pioneered Japanese martial arts in England, Bartitsu per se was actually an eclectic combination of jujitsu with British boxing, French savate (kickboxing) and the Vigny system of self defence with a walking stick. That cross-cultural eclecticism was many decades ahead of its time and is a major reason for the modern resurgence of interest in Barton-Wright's activities.<br /><br />Given that Doyle had Holmes describe "baritsu" as "the Japanese art of wrestling", the consensus is that he was vaguely aware of Bartitsu but assumed that jujitsu was the extent of it; a misapprehension that was later repeated by several other commentators.<br /><br />I'm glad you referenced Emy's book. Bartitsu.org will shortly be featuring an interview on that subject.Tony Wolfhttp://www.bartitsu.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-52804611954672929552010-12-25T18:05:10.812+11:002010-12-25T18:05:10.812+11:00Another fascinating post. Thank you for all your h...Another fascinating post. Thank you for all your hard work and thought provocation. <br />Happy Holidays.<br />Phillip<br /><br />(and wish we had your 'winter', its damn cold here)Hermeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968366076064269729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-13186995378326647912010-12-25T17:04:03.149+11:002010-12-25T17:04:03.149+11:00Tony thanks for that.
I would love to have seen E...Tony thanks for that.<br /><br />I would love to have seen Emily Watts' publication of The Fine Art of Jujitsu, but perhaps you know the answer to my question. <br /><br />Did Watts draw a specific link at all with Edward Barton-Wright? with his Bartitsu Academy of Arms and Physical Culture? or with Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's fictional characters?<br /><br />Happy holidays to you :)Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-43809828831768696932010-12-25T09:59:21.824+11:002010-12-25T09:59:21.824+11:00The Bartitsu Club was unusual for its time in admi...The Bartitsu Club was unusual for its time in admitting female students. During the decade or so after the Club was founded, self defence for women (especially jujitsu, but also including the defensive use of the lady's parasol) became somewhat fashionable. The high points of the pre-WW1 trend included Emily (Diana) Watts' publication of "The Fine Art of Jujitsu", and then Edith Garrud's teaching jujitsu to the Bodyguard of the radical Suffragette movement.Tony Wolfhttp://www.bartitsu.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-1160823865851758362010-12-25T05:01:35.342+11:002010-12-25T05:01:35.342+11:00By the way, there is no woman in the image. That l...By the way, there is no woman in the image. That looks like a martial arts outfit, not a dress.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-78889657285911864572010-12-25T04:43:20.199+11:002010-12-25T04:43:20.199+11:00andrew happy holidays :)
Emelyne Godfrey, in Masc...andrew happy holidays :)<br /><br />Emelyne Godfrey, in Masculinity, Crime And Self-Defence In Victorian Literature, noted that masculine violence became less and less tolerated in middle class men and all women. It was a sign of a lowly born ruffian. <br /><br />The blurb on her book says "From the pistol duel to the Whitechapel Murders, the _self-defence scenario_ provided an avenue through which contrasting visions of masculinity could be explored".Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-27257950446139930632010-12-25T00:29:46.514+11:002010-12-25T00:29:46.514+11:00I can just see a Victorian gentleman defending him...I can just see a Victorian gentleman defending himself using this what about the Lady?andrew1860https://www.blogger.com/profile/09302166776668727094noreply@blogger.com