tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post8101146821457455818..comments2024-03-28T22:50:02.315+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: The Titanic and LiverpoolHelshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-647830307627543222012-12-02T18:24:06.339+11:002012-12-02T18:24:06.339+11:00The History Blog has published a post on Titanic B...The History Blog has published a post on Titanic Belfast, the innovative museum which opened in 2012 on the site of the former Harland and Wolff shipyard where Titanic was built.<br /><br />The massive longitudinal sectioned plan of Titanic that was used during the British Board of Trade’s inquiry into the tragedy is now on permanent display.<br /><br />http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/21783Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-88216164867351270802011-07-02T14:10:21.412+10:002011-07-02T14:10:21.412+10:00Emm,
I wish I was closer to the Merseyside Marit...Emm,<br /><br />I wish I was closer to the Merseyside Maritime Museum myself. It takes me a year ahead, to plan an itinerary and to pay for the plane tickets.<br /><br />Apart from Titanic, it would have been wonderful to see the exhibition “On Their Own - Britain’s Child Migrants”. I got lucky this time however. The exhbition came to Australia, and was actually expanded.<br /><br />http://melbourneblogger.blogspot.com/2011/05/child-migrantsdeportees-from-britain-to.htmlHelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-75837985293469292772011-07-02T14:04:23.228+10:002011-07-02T14:04:23.228+10:00The History Blog has interesting details about nev...The History Blog has interesting details about never-before-seen images of the Titanic, released at trial in Norfolk Virginia in June 2010.<br /><br />http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/11854Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-89409709124799992672011-04-17T12:07:32.411+10:002011-04-17T12:07:32.411+10:00That is a terrific letter Anon, especially if peop...That is a terrific letter Anon, especially if people are interested in the Titanic and want to read further on the topic. <br /><br />You know I lived in Britain for 2 years, and visited 14 times since, and never went to Belfast *blush*. Next visit I will definitely have a look at the Ulster Folk and Transport museum in Belfast.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-59942179699179297032011-04-17T04:06:21.511+10:002011-04-17T04:06:21.511+10:00The ship in the photograph is the RMS Oceanic (189...The ship in the photograph is the RMS Oceanic (1899). She was the pinnacle of 19th century shipbuilding and a very successful and much loved White Star Liner. The superstructure and lines of the ship are like a prototype Titanic, but she was only a third of the size - by 1907 when the Olympic class was conceived, the scale of this design had been increased massively.<br /><br />White Star used Liverpool until 1907 when they transferred their transatlantic operations to Southampton. The Titanic never visited Liverpool, although her sister Olympic did just prior to her maiden voyage in 1911.<br /><br />The Oceanic was torpedoed and sank in the First World War - one of her huge propellor blades is displayed at the entrance to the Ulster Folk and Transport museum in Belfast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-77065616765511399552011-02-23T11:26:53.812+11:002011-02-23T11:26:53.812+11:00For an excellent review of shipwrecks in art, go t...For an excellent review of shipwrecks in art, go to Weimar's blog: http://weimarart.blogspot.com/2011/02/shipwrecked.htmlHelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-17229077623350318752011-01-29T19:14:19.161+11:002011-01-29T19:14:19.161+11:00PH Chan,
thank you - you may well be correct. The ...PH Chan,<br />thank you - you may well be correct. The only evidence I have for the Liverpool label is second hand. See Titanic and Other White Line Ships in http://www.titanic-whitestarships.com/Oceanic_2_1899.htm<br /> I have put a query next to the label, in the original post.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-26565434358145408012010-10-04T10:33:53.118+11:002010-10-04T10:33:53.118+11:00Hi Hels,
I have my doubts that the ship on the po...Hi Hels,<br /><br />I have my doubts that the ship on the postcard is of the Titanic. The Titanic had 4 funnels; I can only see two on this ship.<br /><br />Strangely the postcard does not say where the photograph was taken, most cards do. Being from Liverpool, I collect Liverpool postcards and that does look like the dock at Liverpool's Pier Head.<br /><br />I was wondering why you put Liverpool docks, then Titanic when labeling the card.P.H.Channoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-88563508924603849072010-10-03T15:36:54.394+11:002010-10-03T15:36:54.394+11:00PH Chan
That is a very good question.
I have no ...PH Chan<br />That is a very good question. <br /><br />I have no doubt that the postcard was indeed of the Titanic... you can compare the ship in this picture to any other images of the Titanic easily enough. But how do we know at which docks the photographer captured this picture?Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-56431773353768912842010-10-03T09:57:54.420+11:002010-10-03T09:57:54.420+11:00I am intrigued by that postcard of the Titanic. Ca...I am intrigued by that postcard of the Titanic. Can you confirm that photo is of the Titanic at Liverpool docks ? I have read that the Titanic never visited Liverpool though it had many Liverpool connections and had a crew of many Liverpudlians.P.H.Channoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-11444293302827312702010-05-27T23:17:53.489+10:002010-05-27T23:17:53.489+10:00How fascinating and I love that photograph of the ...How fascinating and I love that photograph of the relic. It must have been incredible to see up close. I visited the Merseyside Maritime Museum in December 2008 and it was absolutely fascinating. I was really touched by the exhibitions on the old and sunken ships and was equally interested in the slavery exhibit but it was too much to take in on one day. I will go back one day to see the slavery exhibit.Mandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11931248631361366673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-90122961695549870482010-05-09T18:21:55.284+10:002010-05-09T18:21:55.284+10:00A Cork lad :) Thanks for your note - you raised a ...A Cork lad :) Thanks for your note - you raised a couple of important issues.<br /><br />I think the thing about famous shipping accidents is that we focus on the Famous and the Mega Wealthy, and ignore the thousands of ordinary families seeking an easier life in the New World. I know I do. I have written extensively about the Astors, Wideners and Guggenheims, for example. But never about lowly 3rd class passengers barely able to scrape together the ocsts of a cramped family cabin.<br /><br />The joy of the Heritage Centre is that it focuses on ordinary migrants, millions and millions of them, about to leave Europe via Ireland. <br /><br />I hope I also redressed the imbalance a little in this post. We really should examine the unthinkable loss to working class families associated with the Titanic. Ditto Empress of Ireland and the Lusitania. of course.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-57191260008810270542010-05-08T23:43:30.493+10:002010-05-08T23:43:30.493+10:00I was born and raised in Cork city, Ireland. The ...I was born and raised in Cork city, Ireland. The Titanic's last port of call was Cork Harbour. The Titanic docked off the island of cobh, then known as Queenstown, and took on over 100 passangers. Then embarked on its final leg. A few years later the Lusitania was sunk off the coast of Cork and the dead and survivors were landed in Cobh. some of the dead were buried in Cobh. There is now a Heritage Centre at the point where passengers boarded ships to America, including the first ever ship to dock at Ellis Island in New York. Over a million Irish emigrated from this point during and after the Irish famine, destined for North America and Australia. I visited it last summer, including the permanent Titantic Exhibition. Here is the link: http://www.cobhheritage.com/index2.htmlP. M. Doolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16673509230835222713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-5484404560012693182010-05-06T10:34:27.024+10:002010-05-06T10:34:27.024+10:00ChrisJ and Glen, agreed - personalising the experi...ChrisJ and Glen, agreed - personalising the experience really does seem to be important for young people. Otherwise they might experience the museum tour as if they were being shown over a Hollywood film set. <br /><br />Glen, funny you should raise the German underground hospital tour. Since three of your important island territories (Jersey, Guernsey, Isle of Man) are crown dependencies, I have been very interested in the implications of not being part of the United Kingdom. It hasn't been easy locating WW2 material that was classified for 50 years.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-84649625336805378182010-05-06T09:12:53.387+10:002010-05-06T09:12:53.387+10:00Hi Hels, my wife and I visited the Titanic exhibit...Hi Hels, my wife and I visited the Titanic exhibition in Chicago when we holidayed there in 2002 and I can wholeheartedly recommend it. <br /><br />They use a similar idea to the boarding card in Jersey, Channel Islands at the German WWII Undergroiund Hospital. <br /><br />As you enter the tunnels you are given a (German) occupation ID card for a real person in 1940. When you finish the tour in the cafe you can check what happened to the person. <br /><br />Some lived through the war uneventfully, some were collaborators, a few escaped and some were even executed by the Germans.<br /><br />GlenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-35819791397900244682010-05-05T07:44:49.771+10:002010-05-05T07:44:49.771+10:00Hels, the kilns taht I featured today at Holroyd a...Hels, the kilns taht I featured today at Holroyd are no longer operational. They were kept for decoration and historical significance. <br /><a href="http://sydney-city.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Sydney - City and Suburbs</a>Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16361781616939928650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-32777611483927749962010-05-04T06:04:17.495+10:002010-05-04T06:04:17.495+10:00The idea of the boarding pass and then checking th...The idea of the boarding pass and then checking the wall at the end of the tour is excellent - it must really personalize the experience.<br /><br />Reminds me of a high school history class I heard of in which the students learned about one of the world wars by researching an individual soldier, sailor, or airforce personnel.ChrisJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13139508470517226199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-4541502582947220802010-05-03T01:16:23.770+10:002010-05-03T01:16:23.770+10:00Helen, how fascinating. Great background, and the ...Helen, how fascinating. Great background, and the Titanic is such a story. I am sure there is still much I don't know about the great ship and it's passengers.Karenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05206642885608991170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-88153693779971110202010-05-02T19:10:29.188+10:002010-05-02T19:10:29.188+10:00Hermes,
is it a small world or what?
Thanks for ...Hermes,<br />is it a small world or what? <br /><br />Thanks for the link to the auction house which had a special Titanic auction in April apparently. I would not have wanted a promotional brochure for the 1953 movie starring Clifton Webb and Barbara Stanwyck, nor a Hollywood version of DeCaprio. <br /><br />But imagine being able to bid for "The Intimate Letters of Archie Butt". Or the Covent Garden matinee opera programme for the Relief Fund May 14th 1912.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-67507732422235632752010-05-02T18:04:25.646+10:002010-05-02T18:04:25.646+10:00How interesting. I live not far from the main Tita...How interesting. I live not far from the main Titanic auction house in this country:<br /><br />http://www.henry-aldridge.co.uk/<br /><br />and have often been fascinated by what is offered.Hermeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968366076064269729noreply@blogger.com