tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post7547944836005101480..comments2024-03-29T15:04:20.549+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: Museum of Oliver Cromwell: 17th century hero or villain?Helshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-89038889816024528852014-04-13T19:18:17.402+10:002014-04-13T19:18:17.402+10:00My previous comment missed a "not" but y...My previous comment missed a "not" but you seem to have understood that.<br /><br />1960-1965 eh. You are a spring chicken.<br /><br />cheers<br /><br />johnJohn Tyrrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14840928923304125310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-24377256063571445242014-04-13T08:46:40.261+10:002014-04-13T08:46:40.261+10:00John
*nod* I was in high school from 1960-1965 in...John<br /><br />*nod* I was in high school from 1960-1965 inclusive, which seems a very long time ago to me. <br /><br />Similar to your experience. a young (early 20s) Australian woman was saying thank goodness Australia was never involved in the Vietnam War (late 1960s-early 1970s). I said ARE YOU INSANE? We introduced mandatory conscription, sent thousands of soldiers to Vietnam, destroyed thousands of civilian lives in Vietnam, lost hundreds of Australian soldiers' lives and brought down the Federal government here!<br /><br />Bring back history classes, I say!Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-65477247911053903602014-04-13T08:29:05.215+10:002014-04-13T08:29:05.215+10:00It is my impression that little history of the kin...It is my impression that little history of the kind you were taught is now to be found in schools. A friend and I asked a young nurse a year or two back about famous English people - she had only vaguely heard of Thatcher, didn't seem to know who Churchill was, but knew who Shakespeare was. We didn't even get round to Cromwell. Of course she knew who Adolf Hitler was, the schools seem to cover that and little else.<br /><br />Re Cromwell, I think the old cultural/religious battles between Cavalier and Roundhead have now disappeared, perhaps a result of increased secularism and the decline of the Anglican Church and Nonconformity. Sir Isaac Foot's comment: "'I judge a man by one thing, which side would he have liked his ancestors to fight on at Marston Moor?" now seems very archaic, but it would not have seemed so a century ago.John Tyrrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14840928923304125310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-5062426651883064942014-04-13T08:07:32.411+10:002014-04-13T08:07:32.411+10:00John
is that true? Are school children not offere...John<br /><br />is that true? Are school children not offered history subjects at school? Or is the Civil War era excluded from the curriculum?<br /><br />I did history for my full 6 years of high school, starting with the Tudors and ending with breaking up of the British Empire.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-41624791443099796532014-04-13T08:04:46.509+10:002014-04-13T08:04:46.509+10:00Hermes
I am so glad you said that. Both points, a...Hermes<br /><br />I am so glad you said that. Both points, actually :)Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-61890217867494441732014-04-13T07:02:33.709+10:002014-04-13T07:02:33.709+10:00Regrettably I suspect that most Britons could not ...Regrettably I suspect that most Britons could not tell you who Oliver Cromwell was; it was certainly different a half century ago.John Tyrrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14840928923304125310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-91785600558589925162014-04-13T03:23:18.737+10:002014-04-13T03:23:18.737+10:00Quite right,it should NOT be closed. He is still a...Quite right,it should NOT be closed. He is still a hero to many of us.Hermeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968366076064269729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-13913365316927220632014-04-12T14:05:13.859+10:002014-04-12T14:05:13.859+10:00Student,
you are quite right to examine the Civil...Student,<br /><br />you are quite right to examine the Civil Wars and execution of Charles I, separately from Oliver Cromwell. <br /><br />Cromwell was certainly a parliamentarian from 1628, and an officer in the Parliamentary Army in both civil wars. But he didn't start to agitate for truly radical change until 1651, years after Charles was executed. And he didn't become Lord Protector until 1653.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-69776844776334072602014-04-12T13:48:44.857+10:002014-04-12T13:48:44.857+10:00Parnassus
your timing is perfect! I was worried a...Parnassus <br />your timing is perfect! I was worried about the same question!<br /><br />A reader wrote to say he had 17 letters written by his grandfather during his internment on the Isle of Man, some classical music he wrote plus a some newsletters produced by the detainees. He asked where he could send these documents to reach historians researching the internment camps. <br /><br />I made my suggestion (Manx National Heritage)and noted that if he does place the family treasures in an institutional archive, that he should get a copy of _every_ document for himself first.<br /><br /><br /><br />Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-68736563348939395152014-04-12T10:36:34.132+10:002014-04-12T10:36:34.132+10:00We read Reluctant Regicides in class and understoo...We read Reluctant Regicides in class and understood the king's duplicity easily. But regicide was a big step. I think that had King Charles I been exiled to France and the next rightful king put on the throne, there would not have been a Puritan Commonwealth and there wouldn't be national controversy still.Student of Historynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-24575152466286696882014-04-12T08:50:48.794+10:002014-04-12T08:50:48.794+10:00Hello Hels, You describe a unique and charming mu...Hello Hels, You describe a unique and charming museum, yet one afflicted by a common problem, a lack of support from its directors. Not only do we risk losing this fascinating museum, but also by extension its interesting building.<br /><br />A further problem is that closings like this will make donors reluctant to give historic objects that may be lost track of or even sold. I hope that the Cromwell museum will resolve its difficulties.<br />--JimParnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.com