tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post5805950126645153912..comments2024-03-29T15:04:20.549+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: New Amsterdam - New YorkHelshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-40338804255939004372014-05-26T17:09:35.612+10:002014-05-26T17:09:35.612+10:00Parnassus
exactly so. I am well used to finding p...Parnassus<br /><br />exactly so. I am well used to finding projects by Dutch engineers, canal buildings, town planners and architects who were commissioned by cities outside the Netherlands. These 17th century professionals must have been Amsterdam's major export.<br /><br />The difference with towns in the Hudson River Valley is that they didn't invite Dutch engineers to tell them how to build their buildings and towns. Whereas in Russia, I suspect that at one stage there was more Dutch being spoken in Saint Petersburg than Russian. I love this topic :)<br /><br /> <br />Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-15061631783048062132014-05-26T04:32:57.014+10:002014-05-26T04:32:57.014+10:00Hello again, I am sure that there have been disse...Hello again, I am sure that there have been dissertations written specifying the spread of Dutch architecture in the U.S., but the basic answer to your question is Yes. Many features, such as Dutch doors (in which the top half opens separate from the bottom), Dutch (stepped) gables, and Dutch (gambrel) roofs, remained common, and even today builders often supply Dutch Colonial models.<br />--JimParnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-57420687613216136902014-05-25T14:40:35.044+10:002014-05-25T14:40:35.044+10:00Parnassus
Until 6 months ago, I didn't even k...Parnassus<br /><br />Until 6 months ago, I didn't even know about the Dutch-settled cities in the Hudson River Valley. I am now finding The New Netherlands Institute interesting reading.<br /><br />Your reference to those settlements raises an interesting question about the early architecture. After the British took over the area, why were they happy to both retain original Dutch architecture and emulate it in their own houses? Clearly they didn't see the Dutch as their enemy.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-46676020654772698022014-05-25T04:30:12.684+10:002014-05-25T04:30:12.684+10:00Hello Hels, As one who is interested in American ...Hello Hels, As one who is interested in American architecture, I am constantly reading about the Dutch-settled cities in the Hudson River Valley. Not only are the place names Dutch, but also there are many Dutch-inspired buildings. The later architectural history of the area is also very rich, as many of the finest Colonial and 19th Century houses in America were built there.<br />--JimParnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-19764824965191783302014-05-25T02:33:05.082+10:002014-05-25T02:33:05.082+10:00Kimberly
My late aunt and uncle and their family ...Kimberly<br /><br />My late aunt and uncle and their family lived in New York so it was a city I visited often. And loved.<br /><br />But as you locals always knew, there is far more to New York's history than the Statue of Liberty, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, MoMA and the Empire State Building. Now the tours will have to start in 1609, not 1850.<br /><br />Excuse me now. I am going to ring Qantas and book my ticket :)Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-53802420983234288202014-05-25T02:23:36.973+10:002014-05-25T02:23:36.973+10:00Kirk
The first three Anglo-Dutch Wars (1652-74) w...Kirk<br /><br />The first three Anglo-Dutch Wars (1652-74) were so time consuming and so apparently senseless that I can't make head or tail of them. Except for one fact; these wars were all fought _in Western Europe_.<br /><br />So why did the English invade the Dutch colony of New Netherland _in America_ in June 1664? And why did the Dutch respond by sending a fleet that took back their Surinam trading posts from the English? Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-25825162258840186042014-05-25T02:12:18.801+10:002014-05-25T02:12:18.801+10:00Train Man
Agreed. The more I read about New York,...Train Man<br /><br />Agreed. The more I read about New York, the more names I find that still sound Dutch or are very closely Anglicised versions of the Dutch eg Dutch word for stream is kils, as in Catskill.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-84701277960451831942014-05-25T01:17:22.019+10:002014-05-25T01:17:22.019+10:00Hi Hels,
What a wonderful post! As a native New Yo...Hi Hels,<br />What a wonderful post! As a native New Yorker, you sparked lots of memories and that name Henry Hudson is synonymous with my hometown. On the west side of Manhattan you have the Hudson River, the Henry Hudson Highway and there's a very popular high school named after Stuyvesant where author, Frank McCourt taught for years! Thanks for jogging the old memory bank. Kimberly Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06701922878244863690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-8910992652248762802014-05-24T19:25:55.734+10:002014-05-24T19:25:55.734+10:00I've been reading this post while making Anzac...I've been reading this post while making Anzac biscuits: a representative of another country where English and Dutch interests have mingled in the distant past.<br />I really enjoyed this post, Hels. I have a book back in Melbourne all about the first hundred or so years of the English holidays. When I am next there I am going to see what it has to say about the relatively passive 'take over'. I will let you know.<br />From the look of the map, the Dutch were well on the way to making a rather nice city for themselves!<br />Bye for now,<br />KirkAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08642768891794895642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-36590459345422665222014-05-24T18:42:07.197+10:002014-05-24T18:42:07.197+10:00Other Dutch names we came across included The Stad...Other Dutch names we came across included The Stadt Huys Block, Rensselaer County, Stuyvesant Town, Lange Eylandt/Long Island, Yonkers and more.Train Mannoreply@blogger.com