tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post5308972762656908248..comments2024-03-28T22:50:02.315+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: Dr William Palmer - did he use strychnine in his mass murders?Helshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-16425433775581622272018-12-30T15:11:17.483+11:002018-12-30T15:11:17.483+11:00Joseph
thank you for a fascinating blog that I ha...Joseph<br /><br />thank you for a fascinating blog that I had never heard of. <br /><br />Pathology determines the cause and nature of diseases by examining body tissues and bodily fluids. Pathology tests results help doctors diagnose and treat patients correctly, essential but not necessarily of great interest to my unscientific mind.<br /><br />Forensic medicine, on the other hand, is an application of medical jurisprudence that I find fascinating. So would Annie Palmer and all her children have wanted forensic evidence back in 1854.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-20526806412461171972018-12-30T14:11:17.551+11:002018-12-30T14:11:17.551+11:00Hel have a look at Visible Proofs: Forensic Views ...Hel have a look at Visible Proofs: Forensic Views of the Body is about the history of forensic medicine. Over the centuries, physicians, surgeons and other professionals have struggled to develop scientific methods that translate views of bodies and body parts into "visible proofs" that can persuade judges, juries, and the public. Dr William Palmer was one of the cases they covered. https://www.nlm.nih.gov/visibleproofs/galleries/cases/index.html<br /><br />Josephnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-35858355015922211522018-12-30T10:14:19.376+11:002018-12-30T10:14:19.376+11:00Parnassus
you touched on my final question exactl...Parnassus<br /><br />you touched on my final question exactly: were respectable, middle class, well connected and educated men, especially doctors, ever believed to be murderers? Even when the evidence was clear? It took 10 years and lots of bodies before Dr Palmer was charged, and even then only for one murder. Yes he was eventually hanged, but I wonder if the insurance companies alerted the police during that decade. Perhaps they just refused his claims and kept their commercial mouths shut.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-28228134818837045682018-12-30T00:25:24.818+11:002018-12-30T00:25:24.818+11:00Hello Hels, It is not a good idea to cheat an ins...Hello Hels, It is not a good idea to cheat an insurance company. They normally investigate and prosecute thoroughly. So that is why I find it strange that people kill repeatedly to collect on insurance, or even once for a high-value or oddly timed policy. That's partly why I find it odd that multiple-murderers get away with their crimes for so long, with very suspicious patterns and often detectable trails of evidence. Perhaps some people like Dr. Palmer think their high position will deflect suspicion or investigation--wait, that sounds like certain government officials, whose crimes are perhaps other than murder.<br />--Jim Parnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-1302699618537191332018-12-29T22:03:10.200+11:002018-12-29T22:03:10.200+11:00bazza
do you remember the post on Dr Harold Shipm...bazza<br /><br />do you remember the post on Dr Harold Shipman?<br />https://melbourneblogger.blogspot.com/2016/08/a-kindly-capable-caring-gp-but-deadly.html<br /><br />Spot on with the number of Shipman's victims! An inquiry after his conviction confirmed he was responsible for 218 deaths and there may have been other elderly patients who didn't have children to alert the authorities. But now I have to reconsider the doctor's motive for the killings. Dr Shipman did NOT want to watch his beloved patients did in misery; in fact he tried to make them as comfortable as possible. And he did NOT insure his elderly patients to make a fortune after they died. <br /><br />Instead Dr Shipman was acting as an angel of mercy, killing his patients now, to prevent pain later on. Trouble was... he made the decision to kill them, without asking the patient's opinion :(Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-83385183534743855992018-12-29T18:56:15.232+11:002018-12-29T18:56:15.232+11:00I think the numbers of patients killed by Dr Harol...I think the numbers of patients killed by Dr Harold Shipman ran into the hundreds. And, again, there are probably other deaths for which he is responsible. I wasn't really aware of Palmer's crimes but I do remember the times when doctors used to make you better instead of killing you!<br /><b><a href="http://todiscoverice.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"> CLICK HERE for Bazza’s technically tremulous Blog ‘To Discover Ice’</a></b>bazzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794010156639774028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-16867465999975701332018-12-29T17:43:44.297+11:002018-12-29T17:43:44.297+11:00Andrew
I agree. A doctor who uses strychnine to k...Andrew<br /><br />I agree. A doctor who uses strychnine to kill close family, colleagues and friends would do so only because he enjoys seeing people die hideously, or because he wants to gain (eg financially) from each death. <br /><br />In Dr Palmer's case, we only know of the deaths of his close relatives and colleagues because they were the only names raised in the court case: starting with his wife, brother, mother-in-law, most of his children and uncle. But Palmer was so deeply in debt (from gambling?), he may have poisoned many other people who were not later exhumed.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-22903121898889079312018-12-29T17:31:07.024+11:002018-12-29T17:31:07.024+11:00Deb
Strychnine was discovered in 1818 and eventua...Deb<br /><br />Strychnine was discovered in 1818 and eventually became available in a tablet form, to treat heart and respiratory complaints in very small quantities. Even then doctors were fully aware of how deadly strychnine was. These days a rigorously strict strychnine permit is only provided for baiting wild dogs and foxes at a specific location, for a short time. Occasionally it has been used for killing rat colonies.<br /><br />So by the late 1840s, Dr William Palmer knew _exactly_ what he was doing!!Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-59852422215290973932018-12-29T12:11:57.376+11:002018-12-29T12:11:57.376+11:00I suggest he was guilty of more than with what he ...I suggest he was guilty of more than with what he was charged. The deaths just had to be all put together by someone who had the resources and interest. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-44890794076263433552018-12-29T11:47:46.014+11:002018-12-29T11:47:46.014+11:00I don't understand. If strychnine was always d...I don't understand. If strychnine was always deadly, why were doctors given access to this drug at all? Debnoreply@blogger.com