tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post4988420343302847875..comments2024-03-28T20:35:00.265+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: Worship of Hitler in an English Church, 1945Helshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-80737669731109110252021-05-04T15:16:03.814+10:002021-05-04T15:16:03.814+10:00Amanda
Well done! As you can tell from the commen...Amanda<br /><br />Well done! As you can tell from the comments above, even very literate bloggers knew nothing about this part of British history. I hope Mad Hatter does very well.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-54738630712705678962021-05-04T10:35:02.410+10:002021-05-04T10:35:02.410+10:00Some of you may be interested in my fictionalized ...Some of you may be interested in my fictionalized novel MAD HATTER (Guernica Editions, Canada 2019) https://www.amazon.com.au/s?k=Mad+Hatter+-+Amanda+Hale&i=stripbooks&ref=nb_sb_noss The novel deals with the material you have written about, and has scenes set at Kingdom House with some of the characters involved in the League of Christian Reformers. My father, interned for 3 years in UK during WW2, was one of these people.Amanda Halehttps://www.amazon.com.au/s?k=Mad+Hatter+-+Amanda+Hale&i=stripbooks&ref=nb_sb_nossnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-60544752114059023952020-07-03T21:57:48.392+10:002020-07-03T21:57:48.392+10:00Hank
Thank you for writing. Had you read Susan Ga...Hank<br /><br />Thank you for writing. Had you read Susan Gardiner's work before? She was my first introduction to the topic.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-28819124536421435332020-07-03T07:38:52.834+10:002020-07-03T07:38:52.834+10:00Thanks so much for this. I am an American libertar...Thanks so much for this. I am an American libertarian and our party is awash in "former" communist anarchists and "pro-life" national socialists who never appeared until we got an electoral vote in 1972. Now it is like bailing water out of a stove-in hull to explain that legalizing murder does not diminish coercion any more than allowing the Political State to obtrude its jurisdiction inside female individuals. The tipoff was an old George Orwell essay on an Oz site, and the search led me here, where I shall remain a reader. Cheerfully, libertariantranslator dotcom Hank Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12600557947173137546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-89645702320698166642018-11-22T21:59:44.695+11:002018-11-22T21:59:44.695+11:00Student
my only problem is knowing what was the m...Student<br /><br />my only problem is knowing what was the majority view in Cabinet. <br /><br />Halifax and Chamberlain, who both met Hitler, were criticised by the rest of the ministers for being TOO close to the cause of appeasement. In May 1940, Chamberlain resigned and Winston Churchill became the new prime minister. <br /><br />The British Fascists may have believed they were supported by both Chamberlain and Lord Halifax, but Chamberlain died a few weeks after he left office. And Churchill ensured that Lord Halifax was rapidly moved out the Foreign Office altogether! So by mid 1940, the Fascists must have felt they were on their own.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-67217879503326472942018-11-22T13:42:55.412+11:002018-11-22T13:42:55.412+11:00Hels
I can also understand the thinking of the pr...Hels<br /><br />I can also understand the thinking of the pro-German Fascists in Britain in the late 1930s. They were very much committed to avoiding war against their like-minded brethren in Germany.<br /><br />But something else. Throughout the late 1930s, both the prime minster Neville Chamberlain and the foreign secretary Lord Halifax were determined to avoid war in Europe, at any cost! Chamberlain negotiated away anything that Hitler demanded (especially Czechoslovakia), in order to achieve "peace for our time". The British Fascists believed they were supported by both Chamberlain and Lord Halifax.Student of Historynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-35742800719580877982018-11-21T15:30:45.082+11:002018-11-21T15:30:45.082+11:00CherryPie
I almost understand the motives of pro-...CherryPie<br /><br />I almost understand the motives of pro-German Fascists in Britain before the war. And during the war, 18B detainees were interned in the Peveril Camp on the Isle of Man and other secure locations. <br /><br />But once the war was over, British citizens finally understood how many of their young men had been tragically killed or damaged fighting the enemy, and how many British cities had been bombed. For some Brits to support Hitler and the Nazis _after_ May 1945 was horrific.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-46933772693720817582018-11-21T04:13:26.374+11:002018-11-21T04:13:26.374+11:00A fascinating but deeply disturbing story. I had n...A fascinating but deeply disturbing story. I had no idea of this part of our history.CherryPiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11788084724907992076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-2724478031931303652018-11-20T20:39:54.597+11:002018-11-20T20:39:54.597+11:00I just read the comments of 'Anon' that yo...I just read the comments of 'Anon' that you referenced. It presents a real dilemma and I think you were brave to leave the comment standing. I'm not sure I would have done the same!<br />Incidentally, jorjorbeths two links lead to gambling etc sites...bazzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794010156639774028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-89027965970544019402018-11-20T10:57:20.445+11:002018-11-20T10:57:20.445+11:00bazza
re unwanted comments, I don't mind vacu...bazza<br /><br />re unwanted comments, I don't mind vacuous, inane comments that waste a bit of space but add nothing to the conversation. However I resent racist, anti-Semitic or vicious comments, and delete them straight away. Except for a response to "Did Germany really make a serious peace proposal in Dec 1916?" And I may yet delete that one as well.<br /><br />http://melbourneblogger.blogspot.com/2016/01/did-germany-really-make-serious-peace.html<br /><br />Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-64099763046349204142018-11-20T10:48:13.693+11:002018-11-20T10:48:13.693+11:00bazza
there was a lot known about those British c...bazza<br /><br />there was a lot known about those British citizens who were working for a German victory _during_ WW2. In 1940 the Treachery Act, which outlawed conduct designed or likely to give assistance to the naval, military or air operations of the enemy had passed through parliament and received royal assent. But this Act only covered military support for Germany, not religious, political or propaganda support.<br /><br />The Independent wrote: By 1944, Jack King (a real MI5 officer) had compiled such a daunting list of Hitler admirers in Britain that MI5 admitted the faith of many within the intelligence services and beyond that Britons were largely immune to the ideology and methods of the Nazi Party had been severely shaken. <br /><br />Unfortunately for us, the papers, books and newspaper articles seemed to have disappeared after the war ended.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-68628465562126851432018-11-19T22:14:49.813+11:002018-11-19T22:14:49.813+11:00I too am shocked by this story and I'm interes...I too am shocked by this story and I'm interested in what happened to these people after the war. There was clearly no contrition; they mainly seem to have faded into some kind of oblivion...<br /><br />Hels, I think <b>jorjorbeth's</b>, posts above are trawling posts and I should delete if I were you.<br /><b><a href="http://todiscoverice.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"> CLICK HERE for Bazza’s heuristic Blog ‘To Discover Ice’</a></b>bazzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794010156639774028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-24323906394434673092018-11-18T10:09:11.309+11:002018-11-18T10:09:11.309+11:00jorjorbeth
history blogs unearth amazing stuff, a...jorjorbeth<br /><br />history blogs unearth amazing stuff, agreed. But this information seems to be well hidden. I first found the Legion of Christian Reformers, dedicated to the worship of Adolf Hitler, in a 1945 Australian newspaper article!!!<br /> <br />https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/48679706Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-53837591145163821982018-11-18T03:50:13.826+11:002018-11-18T03:50:13.826+11:00Beautiful image the building You chose well for th...<br />Beautiful image the building You chose well for the theme.<br />Your blog is very nice,Thanks for sharing good blog.<br /><a href="http://www.starbet789.com/" rel="nofollow">คาสิโนออนไลน์</a><br />jorjorbethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01709331999985806659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-23614678712026417462018-11-17T21:49:06.475+11:002018-11-17T21:49:06.475+11:00Joseph
Regulation 18B was an impossible piece of ...Joseph<br /><br />Regulation 18B was an impossible piece of legislation to get right. <br /><br />Implementation of the regulation came with fear of a German invasion of Britain in May 1940 following the collapse of Allied forces in France. Under the legislation the Home Secretary of the day was free to detain and imprison as he saw fit anyone against whom evidence of potential disloyalty was presented by the security services. The normal safeguards against abuse of executive power traditionally available to British citizens, such as the provisions of Habeas Corpus and trial by jury, were suspended. <br /><br />Most of the British citizens detained were members of Fascist parties, yet I would still argue that the implementation of a non-democratic measure inevitably raised serious civil rights issues, and was justified only by the hideousness of WW2. Undemocratic, without charge, trial or set term, on the ground that this was necessary for national security. Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-58159333872531909752018-11-17T21:32:39.774+11:002018-11-17T21:32:39.774+11:00Hilary and Sue,
I too knew a great deal about Sir...Hilary and Sue,<br /><br />I too knew a great deal about Sir Oswald Mosley, Capt Ramsay and the Right Club, William Joyce Lord Haw Haw etc. But I had never heard of Arthur Schneider, James Battersby, Capt Thomas Baker and other Fascists who became particularly important from April 1945 onwards. Even finding a photo of Kingdom House was almost impossible.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-39547781594004248032018-11-17T21:24:24.874+11:002018-11-17T21:24:24.874+11:00Parnassus
yes, there were many supporters of the ...Parnassus<br /><br />yes, there were many supporters of the Nazi Party in the USA before and during WW2, working very hard to keep America out of the war against Germany! But I think the British crazies were more upper class and more influential than the American crazies - barons, politicians, barristers, writers and military officers. No wonder they had so much influence.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-14764383174983602002018-11-17T21:11:07.454+11:002018-11-17T21:11:07.454+11:00Andrew
Before the war was declared (September 193...Andrew<br /><br />Before the war was declared (September 1939) and after the surrender was signed (May 1945), I think you are correct. Carefully watching suspects and documenting their activities and contacts would have been enough. <br /><br />But once Britain was formally at war, it would have been treasonable for the Militant Christian Patriots and the British Union of Fascists etc to gather funds, intelligence and publicity for the Nazis.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-32194835699880993832018-11-17T11:07:59.404+11:002018-11-17T11:07:59.404+11:00I don't think Defence Regulation 18B protected...I don't think Defence Regulation 18B protected Britain from pro-Nazi beliefs or behaviours.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07701188167981018244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-12637797542574271222018-11-17T07:55:49.078+11:002018-11-17T07:55:49.078+11:00Goodness, this is bizarre! I knew about the Britis...Goodness, this is bizarre! I knew about the British Fascists, of course, and Oswald Mosley, but I’d never heard of this before! Shudder! Sue Bursztynskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09362273418897882971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-19944606552545514462018-11-17T07:12:31.262+11:002018-11-17T07:12:31.262+11:00Hi Hels - well this was interesting ... I knew not...Hi Hels - well this was interesting ... I knew nothing about them or the organisation. When I travel via the A272 in future ... I'll remember your post - cheers HilaryHilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-50610421632293488852018-11-17T07:10:05.483+11:002018-11-17T07:10:05.483+11:00Hello Hels, It makes me ill to read about these p...Hello Hels, It makes me ill to read about these people. At least it shows that all the crazies don't come from America! What is especially disturbing is the easy way that people (especially evil ones) can go from being political figures to religious ones. <br />--JimParnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-80772228834494742672018-11-17T06:49:08.034+11:002018-11-17T06:49:08.034+11:00Perhaps the government's policy was correct, w...Perhaps the government's policy was correct, wait them out and monitor them rather than making them martyrs of sorts. Whatever, few will openly approve of Hitler now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com