tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post4539784138654738327..comments2024-03-28T22:50:02.315+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: Shaun Greenhalgh, a talented British art faker Helshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-72271460345597734032019-02-21T10:04:15.549+11:002019-02-21T10:04:15.549+11:00Hilary
it is important to describe the faking pro...Hilary<br /><br />it is important to describe the faking project as a family enterprise, yes. Firstly I forgot to mention that Shaun's brother handled the finances derived from the sales. Secondly I forgot to specify that Olive's father, Shaun's grandfather, really had owned an art gallery. His gallery gave credibility to Shaun's collection. Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-35835696979227832962019-02-20T22:14:12.207+11:002019-02-20T22:14:12.207+11:00Hi Hels - I did know about the Greenhalghs but had...Hi Hels - I did know about the Greenhalghs but hadn't paid much attention as I was involved with caring elderlies at that stage. So thank you for the update - well he succeeded ... and paid for it - I wonder how they're doing now ... probably his parents have passed on. Still thanks for the read - cheers HilaryHilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-67290075565116047912019-02-02T22:21:23.518+11:002019-02-02T22:21:23.518+11:00Jenny
after thinking about it for a year, I final...Jenny<br /><br />after thinking about it for a year, I finally retired at the end of the academic year in mid Dec. It was a big decision, and one that I prepared for in advance. While I was still working, I largely read short journal articles; now in retirement I am reading large books :)<br /><br />Thank goodness for serious blogs. Otherwise the mind might go to mush... after a certain age.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-85260092606679144322019-02-02T18:15:03.477+11:002019-02-02T18:15:03.477+11:00What a most remarkable talent. I had heard of him ...What a most remarkable talent. I had heard of him but didn't know of his website There is a certain theme in the books you have been reading lately (I'm writing these comments backwards from the latest one) - people who had great talents but achieved fame in unconventional ways. Jenny Woolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16881781466502273314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-48687949948178019382019-01-30T09:14:43.625+11:002019-01-30T09:14:43.625+11:00Fascinating, I had not heard of him before!Fascinating, I had not heard of him before!CherryPiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11788084724907992076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-68628827578797414822019-01-29T12:32:20.183+11:002019-01-29T12:32:20.183+11:00mem
think of the all artists, musicians and write...mem<br /><br />think of the all artists, musicians and writers who had to live lives of struggle and to die without notable memorials. I am thinking of Van Gogh of course, but also El Greco, Vermeer, Monet, Kafka, Mozart etc etc. These were truly great talents yet they were largely unrecognised or inadequately paid in their own life time. Now they are celebrated everywhere.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-5389464768936407492019-01-29T11:20:18.629+11:002019-01-29T11:20:18.629+11:00its all pretty disgusting , the price paid fro art...its all pretty disgusting , the price paid fro artwork when you consider the poverty and misery that Vincent Van Gogh lived in . The saddest thing was that he had no recognition in his lifetimes. The fact that he could keep painting even when many mocked his ability is the miracle. What a pity that Mr Greenhalgh didn't get to express HIMSELF with his obviously significant talent . I find the whole at thing and the treatment of its treasures as investments pretty disgusting . I think if I could afford it I would be buying young live artists and putting something back into their commitment to making the world a more beautiful and thoughtful place through their expression of it . memhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05520080648914042943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-55106501358024968522019-01-27T23:56:39.381+11:002019-01-27T23:56:39.381+11:00Andrew
It is totally inappropriate for the fakers...Andrew<br /><br />It is totally inappropriate for the fakers to fool private collectors and galleries, but I do know what you mean about taking advantage of the rich and snotty :) <br /><br />Just so we all have a new look at art crime in Australia, see the Black Mark blog:<br />https://melbourneartcritic.wordpress.com/2019/01/24/art-crimes-in-australia-in-progress/Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-81390413279540414262019-01-27T20:46:20.539+11:002019-01-27T20:46:20.539+11:00What a wank paintings can be. People pay millions ...What a wank paintings can be. People pay millions for fake paintings without provenance. Do they actually like the painting? Is it a good work of art? They buy them because they think they are important works. I rather admire producers of fake paintings who take advantage of the rich and gullible, along with camp beret wearing gallery directors, never mind museum experts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-53246559260469619432019-01-27T10:54:55.653+11:002019-01-27T10:54:55.653+11:00bazza
I really love Fake or Fortune. The trouble ...bazza<br /><br />I really love Fake or Fortune. The trouble for us is that the Fake or Fortune programme has an enormous staff, money for travel, contact with specialist experts and months of time to get it right. The average private buyer or auction house, on the other hand, usually has a week to do the due diligence and few specialist contacts to do the x-ray checking etc.<br /><br />I must have a look at Tom Keating, given that he was not just faking art for greed (so he said). He was actually teaching the art industry a lesson!Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-53583316152514291492019-01-26T23:00:18.985+11:002019-01-26T23:00:18.985+11:00The whole superstructure of art-dealing is based o...The whole superstructure of art-dealing is based on a flimsy foundation, isn’t it? Sometimes greed and the idea of fame can blind the eyes and dull the senses of so-called experts. There was a recent BBC series called <b>Fake or Fortune?</b> where ‘experts’ examined privately-owned pieces of art and came to a decision as to their authenticity. With that approval Sotheby’s or Christie’s would be able to safely sell the work.<br />You can buy works by Tom Keating very cheaply these days – they aren’t much good!<br /><b><a href="http://todiscoverice.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"> CLICK HERE for Bazza’s apple-knocking Blog ‘To Discover Ice’</a></b>bazzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794010156639774028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-81929169370437931122019-01-26T15:55:42.414+11:002019-01-26T15:55:42.414+11:00Deb
very skilled! The lad from Lancashire took th...Deb<br /><br />very skilled! The lad from Lancashire took the art world by storm, creating and selling masterpiece after masterpiece until one day in 2006, it all came apart. It was a shame that Greenhalgh didn't paint or sculpt under his own name, but I suppose there could never be another Paul GauguinHelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-21850121278517191072019-01-26T13:14:55.846+11:002019-01-26T13:14:55.846+11:00Greenhalgh was skilled, wasn't he?Greenhalgh was skilled, wasn't he?Debnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-4723964725086274532019-01-26T09:35:30.873+11:002019-01-26T09:35:30.873+11:00Parnassus
Connoisseurship must come first - thoro...Parnassus<br /><br />Connoisseurship must come first - thorough historical knowledge of the putative artist's art; a good eye; scientific evidence of the age of the canvas/wooden frame/paint; x-rays etc.<br /><br />Only then does provenance kick in, adding extra information that either confirms the original findings or tricking the new owners into thinking their art object was really done by the artist they paid for. The most reliable information usually comes from auction house catalogues which document the history of the art object back over the decades/centuries. But then I have to repeat: how clean were the dealers’ hands in Shaun Greenhalgh's very clever works?Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-69871492226964795022019-01-26T07:36:07.190+11:002019-01-26T07:36:07.190+11:00Hello Hels, Provenance is considered like the magi...Hello Hels, Provenance is considered like the magic DNA evidence of art, but I often find it dubious. How many people who have genuine paintings also have letters from the artists discussing the same. And how many collectors have this kind of documentation concerning many of their objects?<br /><br />When unknown good items by famous artists, especially too many good items, show up in some old house, storage unit, album, etc., my fraud detection system goes on red alert, and "provenance," considering how easily it is faked, just makes me more suspicious.<br />--JimParnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.com