tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post2148797724455862368..comments2024-03-28T22:50:02.315+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: Hitler's favourite hotel - from Mein Camp (1936-9) to deluxe (2016-8)Helshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-7203681666577947092018-05-11T17:17:41.067+10:002018-05-11T17:17:41.067+10:00Joseph
Absolutely I can. The KdF was widespread,...Joseph<br /><br /><br />Absolutely I can. The KdF was widespread, well supported and very well documented. But as mem noted, there is no consensus between the two lots of historians. Helshttp://melbourneblogger.blogspot.com.aunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-3123731703093896212018-05-11T09:51:27.651+10:002018-05-11T09:51:27.651+10:00Helen you might want to write a post on the Streng...Helen you might want to write a post on the Strength Through Joy movement. The KdF was very successful.Josephnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-75896225377248686082018-05-10T20:40:07.588+10:002018-05-10T20:40:07.588+10:00Weekend-windup
Welcome aboard. I think if the Pro...Weekend-windup<br /><br />Welcome aboard. I think if the Prora had been completed in 1939 and then used continuously since then, we wouldn't be so surprised about millions being poured into the project now. But because it stood as an unused relic from the Fascist era, the story has taken on almost mysterious proportions.Helshttp://melbourneblogger.blogspot.com.aunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-28984050562030078192018-05-10T19:44:30.081+10:002018-05-10T19:44:30.081+10:00Nice reading your blog. Happy to know about the ho...Nice reading your blog. Happy to know about the hotel from the bottom to top...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-6458478100550537652018-05-10T06:30:22.400+10:002018-05-10T06:30:22.400+10:00bazza
Populist right-wing politicians ARE becomin...bazza<br /><br />Populist right-wing politicians ARE becoming successful all over the world, yes indeed. But they are being supported by millions of ordinary citizens who apparently don't see anything wrong with dusting off old Fascist values and giving them a modern twist (eg anti immigrant actions). But is it a coincidence that the Alternative für Deutschland/AfD political party is seeing such a high profile in Rügen Island?Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-17296420415155197462018-05-10T06:24:42.071+10:002018-05-10T06:24:42.071+10:00Mike
the dates of Butlins first opening in 1936 a...Mike<br /><br />the dates of Butlins first opening in 1936 and Prora being started 1936 were identical! But I think Butlins was inspired by previous adult/family holiday camps in the UK, especially in the 1920s and 30s. No doubt the Strength Through Joy people saw Butlins, but they wanted Prora for a slightly more ideological reason.<br /><br />I wish I could say the pun was mine. I read it in The Guardian:<br />https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2005/mar/21/architecture.secondworldwar<br />Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-24923354472519918772018-05-10T05:09:10.584+10:002018-05-10T05:09:10.584+10:00Hi Hels. This is all news to me and utterly fascin...Hi Hels. This is all news to me and utterly fascinating largely because of the moral dilemma it presents. It's the place where far right thinking meets that of the left.<br />On one hand my initial feeling is "it should all be blown up" and on the other we have the kind of point Mem is making+; is now the time to look forward?<br />Populist right-wing politicians are becoming successful all over the world which makes me uneasy. One thing is clear: all of the modern Germans I have met are appalled at their past. The immediate post-war generation grew up in ignorance of the facts of their own history.<br />I am intrigued and repulsed at the same time.....<br /><b><a href="http://todiscoverice.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"> CLICK HERE for Bazza’s friable Blog ‘To Discover Ice’</a></b>bazzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794010156639774028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-35555873950809667962018-05-10T03:28:06.957+10:002018-05-10T03:28:06.957+10:00Absolutely fascinating! And I do appreciate the pu...Absolutely fascinating! And I do appreciate the pun. Now, did Butlins inspire this, or was it the other way round?Mike@Bit About Britainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08741370413282813229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-86823721393106483692018-05-09T21:54:25.678+10:002018-05-09T21:54:25.678+10:00Amelia
Architectural history is an under-represe...Amelia <br /><br />Architectural history is an under-represented subject in art history, at least when I was an undergraduate. Writing this post was a real pleasure.Helshttp://melbourneblogger.blogspot.com.aunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-29484310268130670252018-05-09T20:44:50.170+10:002018-05-09T20:44:50.170+10:00Thanks for sharing the valuable information here. ...Thanks for sharing the valuable information here. So i think i got some useful information with this content. Thank you and please keep update like this informative details.<br /><br /><a rel="nofollow">Stormwater Consulting Chennai</a><br /><a rel="nofollow">Transportation Consulting Chennai</a><br /><a rel="nofollow">Civil Engineering Consultants</a><br /><a rel="nofollow">Office Interiors in Chennai</a><br /><a rel="nofollow">Rainwater Harvesting chennai</a><br />Ameliahttp://www.landtechindia.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-34773181970351407822018-05-09T17:15:50.726+10:002018-05-09T17:15:50.726+10:00mem
German architecture was very interesting beca...mem<br /><br />German architecture was very interesting because it put functionality before decorative qualities. The Templehof airport buildings in Berlin were impressive, as were the Prora resort and Olympia-Stadion in Berlin. Of course the archetypal monolithic architectural style was too concrete and too scary for many of us, but there have been some hideous architecture in non-German countries as well. Hopefully Prora will celebrate good architecture for working families, not celebrate the rise of 1930s Hitler's patronage of his supporters.<br /><br />And I agree that Australia's treatment of refugees has been absolute breach of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. An obscene response to desperate people :(Helshttp://melbourneblogger.blogspot.com.aunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-85793951353894699342018-05-09T16:20:10.424+10:002018-05-09T16:20:10.424+10:00well personally I dont see a problem with this . o...well personally I dont see a problem with this . other than the price of the apartments . There are many buildings in Germany that were built before the war and there presence needs to be noted and then we move on . I think to keep beating Germans over the head with this history is a mistake, it causes the emergence of horrible right wingers who feed off the desire of all humans to forget the worst in themselves and preferably blame someone else. All the Germans I know are horrified by what happened and will forever regret the turn their country took . under the Nazi party . They are also very keen to avoid it ever happening again . There has been an enormous amount of soul searching and angst which has happened and is still happening . Much more than has happened in Japan and also in other countries which might have won wars but committed crimes against humanity . I wonder if Australasians of the future will look back on our treatment of refugees with as much contrition as many Germans look back on their history .It might also be useful to look at the world heritage which was destroyed by Bomber Harris and Bomber Command in the last weeks of the war .Many people more learned than I think that that wasnt necessary but again the anger and wish for vengeance is understandable. All I can say is that Germany has some bad apples , mostly from the former GDR where there was no relief from totalitarianism in that they went straight from Nazism to Communism . They had no chance to reflect it was just straight into the next ideology .<br />Nazi architecture is very interesting is very large and ugly in its thrusting masculinity . The most amazing example I have seen is The Templehof airport buildings in Berlin which ironically are now being used to accommodate Syrian refugees and the runways are used as community gardens . :) memhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05520080648914042943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-71625554125025519362018-05-09T10:13:18.630+10:002018-05-09T10:13:18.630+10:00Hilary
nobody except the very oldest citizens kne...Hilary<br /><br />nobody except the very oldest citizens knew about Prora until a few years ago, and even then I couldn't find any photos of the inside of the resort project when it was first being completed in 1939. We should follow the redevelopment with interest.<br /><br />Perhaps I will come back to the renewed Prora in a year or two and give a progress report.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-19895683969309799672018-05-09T00:44:49.168+10:002018-05-09T00:44:49.168+10:00Hi Hels - thanks for showing us this: explaining t...Hi Hels - thanks for showing us this: explaining the background, and updating us too ... interesting to know about - cheers HilaryHilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-5051043327477083652018-05-08T22:12:10.182+10:002018-05-08T22:12:10.182+10:00Parnassus
Because the newly renovated flats are e...Parnassus<br /><br />Because the newly renovated flats are expensive and gorgeous, the developers are targeting a very a different market. But what would happen if the new owners turn out to be wealthy Nazi supporters? Might families fly Nazi flags on their front balcony, to quietly honour the man who had inspired this enormous complex?Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-63884503797388683162018-05-08T22:04:58.719+10:002018-05-08T22:04:58.719+10:00Deb
Fortunately the average summer temps (23-25c...Deb <br /><br />Fortunately the average summer temps (23-25c) were very pleasant on Rugen Island. However the other nine months of the year would have to be filled with non-beach activities. No wonder they had planned to complete games rooms, dances, exercise classes, lectures, reading areas and coffee shops.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-74314449208008003762018-05-08T21:58:28.804+10:002018-05-08T21:58:28.804+10:00Andrew
Agreed. The original thinking in the late ...Andrew<br /><br />Agreed. The original thinking in the late 1930s was very honourable. The idea that ordinary working families could also have two weeks a year of sunshine, sea air and brisk walking, was very fair. It certainly didn't matter that the toilet and bathroom would be shared with other families.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-69340435245089601292018-05-08T20:53:20.317+10:002018-05-08T20:53:20.317+10:00Hello Hels, No thanks! I can't imagine a reso...Hello Hels, No thanks! I can't imagine a resort more horrible and depressing. Even if part of it was built, I am sure that the renovation cost more than simply rebuilding it. No matter what, it will always have its old associations--kind of like what they say about building a new house on an old foundation--you save the cost of digging, but all of the old problems and limitations remain.<br />--JimParnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-46207862953884178952018-05-08T19:34:39.872+10:002018-05-08T19:34:39.872+10:00Why was the original resort designed for the Balti...Why was the original resort designed for the Baltic Sea? Even in summer it may not have been warm enough to swim.Debnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-13750650075548419212018-05-08T18:58:48.513+10:002018-05-08T18:58:48.513+10:00Quite fascinating and another moral quandary for m...Quite fascinating and another moral quandary for many. It seems like the motives for original plans and building were honourable. Perhaps more honourable than rich people buying them now as investments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com