tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post1564295138839770087..comments2024-03-28T22:50:02.315+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: Wakefield's colonial dream - Australia, Canada, New ZealandHelshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-822873073225378432012-12-03T16:41:15.402+11:002012-12-03T16:41:15.402+11:00Emm
there are two great joys in blogging: a] find...Emm<br /><br />there are two great joys in blogging: a] finding new stories that are fascinating, stories that cause you to search further and b] finding unexpected links. <br /><br />That Lord Durham was very aware of Wakefield's colonial theories from the NZ Association was in some way to be expected. After all, Lord Durham would certainly have read whatever reports were going around London. <br /><br />That he was only prepared to sail to Canada only if Wakefield could also sail, as Commissioner of Crown Lands, came as a big surprise.<br /><br />Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-84695309012009579132012-12-03T08:31:18.160+11:002012-12-03T08:31:18.160+11:00Wow, this is just so interesting! I had a fair ide...Wow, this is just so interesting! I had a fair idea about Australia's history but absolutely none at all about New Zealand and Canada and the connection between them. You've actually inspired me to try read up more on the subject now!Emm in Londonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04945540478030885434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-64063497873940767122012-12-02T13:42:48.513+11:002012-12-02T13:42:48.513+11:00Keith
thank you. Shrigley Hall Cheshire and its e...Keith<br /><br />thank you. Shrigley Hall Cheshire and its estate looked lovely. And just what Wakefield needed. <br /><br />Since Ellen Turner was also going to inherit daddy's spinning mills, I think Wakefield should have cosied up to daddy, not alienated him. Especially since Turner was a High Sheriff of Cheshire!!!Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-11746472203832854922012-12-02T01:22:16.147+11:002012-12-02T01:22:16.147+11:00The final pictures are of Shrigley Hall, Cheshire ...The final pictures are of Shrigley Hall, Cheshire (now a hotel) – the house owned by William Turner, the father of Wakefield’s underage runaway heiress Ellen. This is what he missed out on to become the ‘Father of New Zealand’!<br /><br />All the best<br />Keith<br />http://kjohnsonnz.blogspot.com.au/2010/07/edward-gibbon-wakefield-new-zealands.html<br /><br />Keithhttp://kjohnsonnz.blogspot.com.au/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-40640457321122512452012-12-01T19:05:52.380+11:002012-12-01T19:05:52.380+11:00Parnassus
Were your Wakefields from the same fami...Parnassus<br /><br />Were your Wakefields from the same family as the Wakefields who were so involved in pioneering British colonies, especially New Zealand? What an amazing event that would be.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-86112853784174653682012-12-01T19:02:19.861+11:002012-12-01T19:02:19.861+11:00Essendonian
I BET there was talk, yes :) But did ...Essendonian<br /><br />I BET there was talk, yes :) But did this early indiscretion blight the rest of his career? <br /><br />Even convicts were given positions of great responsibility, if the colonies needed them eg Francis Greenway architect and Doctor William Bland who had both been convicts in Sydney.<br /><br />Mind you, I must admit that both Francis Greenway architect and Dr William Bland felt under appreciated by the colonial authorities as well.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-56739262403763438782012-12-01T14:08:59.784+11:002012-12-01T14:08:59.784+11:00It seems that frontier settlements attract this ki...It seems that frontier settlements attract this kind of strong and individual personality--think how boring history would be otherwise.<br /><br />The name of Wakefield is also well known in America. There is the city of Wakefield Massachusetts, which possesses many historic houses. <br /><br />Ruth Wakefield ties in with your recent post about tea rooms. She ran the Toll House Inn from an old Colonial tavern. The Toll House Cookbook was a standard for generations, but her chief claim to fame is that she was the inventor of the chocolate chip cookie, which are still often called Toll House cookies in the U.S.<br />--Road to Parnassus<br />Parnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-12497991110391254482012-12-01T12:12:46.640+11:002012-12-01T12:12:46.640+11:00If I was 19th century civil servant in the positio...If I was 19th century civil servant in the position of being able to block or advance someone's career, I think I would have the known heiress abductor at the bottom of the list of possible candidates, and I would make sure he stayed there. It might have been moral scruples on the part of the civil servants. However, I haven't read the book and don't know how widely known this was. But there'd have been talk, I'll bet.Lenore Frosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16425222424273971365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-24827485070924127952012-12-01T09:55:47.591+11:002012-12-01T09:55:47.591+11:00Andrew
many of Wakefield's ideas were excelle...Andrew<br /><br />many of Wakefield's ideas were excellent, even as far back as 1831. He did NOT want colonisation to be based on involuntary convict labour as New South Wales endured (or profited from). Most moderns would be very attracted by his notion of a well balanced, voluntary, cohesive labour force of workers, artisans and capital. <br /><br />I had put his lack of official advancement down to his tricky personality. But on reflection, you might be right. Parliament and the civil servants in Britain wanted their own men to be appointed to important positions in the colonies.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-14112896880187493652012-12-01T09:20:59.135+11:002012-12-01T09:20:59.135+11:00What a fascinating bloke. I have noted in differen...What a fascinating bloke. I have noted in different histories how often Britain vetoed an appointment in one of their colonies, but by a round-about way the person was appointed to a position anyway. Slow communication can be very helpful at times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com