tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post8877459723176625650..comments2024-03-28T22:50:02.315+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: The Scopes Trial of 1925 - science Vs the BibleHelshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-88494189100955114932015-09-09T22:43:32.305+10:002015-09-09T22:43:32.305+10:00Another Student
since this show trial was a battl...Another Student<br /><br />since this show trial was a battle between two powerful and opinionated lawyers in William Bryan and Clarence Darrow, young Scopes was largely ignored.<br /><br />The Science League of America said that after the trial, Scopes decided to pursue graduate work in geology. So he enrolled in the Ph.D. program in geology at the University of Chicago. Yet the trial continued to haunt him, including the appeals. Eventually the state attorney general declined to prosecute Scopes again, leaving the Butler Law intact and unchallenged. Even so, Scopes’s notoriety persisted. Later in the year, he was recommended for a graduate fellowship, which he was eventually denied: the president of the university administering the fellowship advised him to “take your atheistic marbles and play elsewhere.” Short on funds, Scopes indeed looked elsewhere. Leaving graduate school, he worked for Gulf Oil of South America for three years, mainly in Venezuela. Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-64272404086709882892015-09-09T22:30:38.374+10:002015-09-09T22:30:38.374+10:00Andrew
I would assume that if the 1925 Scopes cas...Andrew<br /><br />I would assume that if the 1925 Scopes case was well publicised here as it unfolded in Tennessee, people would have tsk tsk'd and said it couldn't happen here, at least in _public_ schools and universities. <br /><br />The Butler Act said: "That it shall be unlawful for any teacher in any of the Universities, Normals and all other public schools of the State which are supported in whole or in part by the public school funds of the State, to teach any theory that denies the Story of the Divine Creation of man as taught in the Bible, and to teach instead that man has descended from a lower order of animals".<br /><br />Now I am not so confident.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-90434909568633709612015-09-09T10:03:54.503+10:002015-09-09T10:03:54.503+10:00Did John Thomas Scopes understand the events swirl...Did John Thomas Scopes understand the events swirling around him? Did he become a star or a villain, or was he neglected after the trial?Another Student of Historynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-40085078861354478712015-09-09T06:43:45.079+10:002015-09-09T06:43:45.079+10:00As you point out in a comment, this matter is stil...As you point out in a comment, this matter is still raising its head at times and references to religion in our state schools should come under the subject of history and studies of the contemporary world. It would have been interesting to follow the 1925 case as it unfolded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-6612775971198577952015-09-08T23:43:19.136+10:002015-09-08T23:43:19.136+10:00Parnassus
certainly not about _private_ religious...Parnassus<br /><br />certainly not about _private_ religious belief or behaviour... just about its _public_ role, in this case in the science curriculum of governmental schools.<br /><br />I wish I had known more about Clarence Darrow. Since the Tennessee legislation banned the teaching of Evolution Theory in any state-funded educational establishment in Tennessee, Darrow must have been a very brave man and a very learned lawyer to take the case on.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-48566911208333377352015-09-08T23:35:39.152+10:002015-09-08T23:35:39.152+10:00Deb
Thank you...certainly not just in Tennessee! ...Deb<br /><br />Thank you...certainly not just in Tennessee! <br /><br />A Christian school that taught a biblical view of creation in science classes has been cleared of breaching state curriculum requirements for the teaching of evolution (Sydney Morning Herald 9th December 2008). A NSW Parliamentarian said the board's ruling set a dangerous precedent that had "opened the floodgates to a religious invasion of the curriculum. The board had failed in its duty to protect the integrity of the science curriculum". So as recently as 2008, the evolution-issue was still being fought over in NSW, at least in some non-government schools.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-26581392997504989862015-09-08T23:33:54.095+10:002015-09-08T23:33:54.095+10:00Hello Hels, As you suggest here, the Scopes tria...Hello Hels, As you suggest here, the Scopes trial was not about religious impulse or feeling, but rather about the control and power that comes through the manipulation of religion.<br /><br />Incidentally, Clarence Darrow was from Northeast Ohio; apparently his family name was well established from early on. Even today there is a long stretch of Highway 91 that goes by the local name of Darrow Road.<br />--Jim<br /><br />Parnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-58496789489415729362015-09-08T21:04:29.195+10:002015-09-08T21:04:29.195+10:00Religion and State by Merriman is a book that seem...Religion and State by Merriman is a book that seems to give a useful analysis, and not just in Tennessee.Debnoreply@blogger.com