tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post6011504677448559017..comments2024-03-29T15:04:20.549+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: The very ugly side of British Fascism, 1936Helshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-4035877924052072018-03-05T18:40:40.160+11:002018-03-05T18:40:40.160+11:00Tom
Thank you. I thought I knew everything there ...Tom<br /><br />Thank you. I thought I knew everything there was to know about Sir Oswald Mosley, his two wives and their three families. Clearly I need to pursue some reading on the next generation of Mosleys. Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-78087310282697844712018-03-04T21:35:14.671+11:002018-03-04T21:35:14.671+11:00For years Max Mosley has fought a series of person...For years Max Mosley has fought a series of personal crusades including his loyal defence of his father, Sir Oswald Mosley, who held repugnant views. Last week the Daily Mail published graphic photographs taken in 1962 of Mosley appearing to punch anti-fascist protesters while protecting his father, Oswald, the infamous admirer of Adolf Hitler and leader of the British Union of Fascists, established in 1932.<br /><br />More troubling for Max Mosley, the Mail discovered a leaflet distributed during a 1961 by-election on behalf of a candidate of his father’s postwar fascist Union Movement warning that “coloured” immigrants spread “tuberculosis, VD and other terrible diseases like leprosy”. <br /><br />Tom Bower<br />March 4 2018, <br />The Sunday TimesTom Bowerhttps://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news-review/max-mosley-a-faded-choirboy-filled-with-hate-ftp7hzd0xnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-28823170587694594202016-07-19T11:11:49.305+10:002016-07-19T11:11:49.305+10:00Many thanks to London Historians' Blog:
No 19...Many thanks to London Historians' Blog:<br /><br />No 19 Princelet St Spitalfields was first built in 1719 and the first occupants were a silk weaving Huguenot family. Later it became home to Polish and Irish immigrants and in the 1860s a synagogue was built into a garden extension. A secret room below the synagogue hosted anti-fascist meetings in the 1930s including preparations for the battle of Cable Street. Children from the Kindertransport found a first sanctuary there in the 1940s. <br /><br />This house is now the Museum of Immigration.<br /><br />https://londonhistorians.wordpress.com/2016/07/18/princelet-street/London Historians' Blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-48099503098274383922013-07-02T14:49:23.113+10:002013-07-02T14:49:23.113+10:00Cynthia and Irene Curzon were the elder daughters ...Cynthia and Irene Curzon were the elder daughters of the Edwardian statesman and Indian Viceroy, Lord Curzon. The Curzon sisters' wealth and social position put them at the centre of the British political scene from 1920 on. <br /><br />Lord Curzon gave Lady Cynthia fabulous pearls when she married Oswald Mosley in 1920. These pearls were auctioned by Bonhams in April 2013, estimated at up to £80,000. <br /><br />Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-14477677611740954982011-12-20T08:39:30.795+11:002011-12-20T08:39:30.795+11:00Heather,
this one defeat of the Fascists took on ...Heather,<br /><br />this one defeat of the Fascists took on heroic proportions, both real and symbolic. By the time I heard the story, in c1956, it was presented as the single occasion in any nation where hundreds of thousands of ordinary working class families stood up to the jackbooted Fascists, the police and possibly the entire government.<br /><br />I wonder if the modern Occupy movements and the Arab Spring movements will be viewed in the same way - heroic, symbolic, protecting their homes and children.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-55818587503021649082011-12-19T21:07:01.935+11:002011-12-19T21:07:01.935+11:00So glad to hear that people power prevailed over t...So glad to hear that people power prevailed over the fascist marchHeather on her travelshttp://www.heatheronhertravels.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-71046737825413061462011-12-19T17:53:38.133+11:002011-12-19T17:53:38.133+11:00Nicholas,
normally I have no trouble responding t...Nicholas,<br /><br />normally I have no trouble responding to comments or questions. But I am utterly stumped. <br /><br />We may understand why desperate citizens were drawn to desperate politics, in the shadow of Nazi Europe. But why did civilised Britain, beacon of democracy to the world, allow bestial men (and women) to half destroy the East End of London and beat its citizens to a pulp? And why did the police participate so vigorously, on the side of the Fascists?<br /><br />Destroying the East End for Peace was a bit like screwing for virginity. It didn't make sense, even in Fascist thinking.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-67936935203372172842011-12-19T11:38:10.207+11:002011-12-19T11:38:10.207+11:00Fascism was widespread in Europe at the time and i...Fascism was widespread in Europe at the time and it supposedly gave all the answers the world needed after the Great Depression. That it could occur in a society obsessed with class and tradition such as the British one is surprising. What is not surprising is its overturn by both the proletariat forces as well as the elite, both of which it managed to offend.<br />Amazing mural!Intellibloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04262938291462934103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-47433067391089849462011-12-13T10:30:31.703+11:002011-12-13T10:30:31.703+11:00cathvo
you are quite right. Unity and Diana Mitfo...cathvo<br /><br />you are quite right. Unity and Diana Mitford travelled to Germany as part of the British Union of Fascists delegation, in time for the 1933 Nuremberg Rally. Unity Mitford idolised Hitler and was determined to live the rest of her life in a victorious Germany. Diana was the active link between the BUF and Hitler, when it wasn't politic for her husband Sir Oswald to travel.<br /><br />Despite Unity and Diana's parents both being keen supporters of the BUF, the other three Mitford sisters turned out very thoughtful and well published democrats. Their only brother was a Fascist supporter, yet died in the British army in WW2 in Japan.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-18769517414987481222011-12-13T09:34:13.122+11:002011-12-13T09:34:13.122+11:00Really interesting post! I knew a little of the Mi...Really interesting post! I knew a little of the Mitford family involvement in Fascisim by reading The Mitford Girls by Mary S Lovell http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mitford-Girls-Mary-S-Lovell/dp/0349115052 Another of the Mitford girls had a massive crush on Hitler and lived in Germany for awhile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-15130371377390167132011-12-12T09:23:47.989+11:002011-12-12T09:23:47.989+11:00Dianne
I suppose that the crises being felt in Eu...Dianne<br /><br />I suppose that the crises being felt in Europe at the time were TRULY nightmarish - devastation of world war one, massive unemployment, The Great Depression etc. So political parties popped up on all parts of the political spectrum.<br /><br />On the extreme right, we would have expected the replacement of Parliament with a dictator, the end of workers' rights, expulsion of citizens born in another country etc etc. We have seen extreme right wing regimes before and we will see them again.<br /><br />What was so shocking about the BUF in 1936 was the violence and lawlessness in a civilised country. Fire-bombing of Jewish shops, beatings of migrants, workers' gatherings being broken up by violent goons. This I don't understand.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-22112486997633567362011-12-12T07:35:52.475+11:002011-12-12T07:35:52.475+11:00It's amazing Hels when we look back on events ...It's amazing Hels when we look back on events and ponder why! One would think that justice would have prevailed and the citizens of this community protected but it was not so and I only feel sorry for the discrimination & suffering of these poor working class people - whose only crime was to be born of another race or another place.Diannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02806482148547283594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-39745261562098432011-12-12T02:22:58.529+11:002011-12-12T02:22:58.529+11:00Jane and Lance
no I have not read or seen Chicken...Jane and Lance<br /><br />no I have not read or seen Chicken Soup With Barley, but what a great reference. In the first act, "In 1936 we see the Kahn family and friends excitedly preparing to blockade Cable Street in order to halt the progress of Mosley's parading fascists."<br /><br />No wonder the play has struggled to be performed. I assume this is because of 1] the reluctance of the establishment to deal with the Fascist movement back then and 2] the embarrassment of the establishment now!Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-74928135377640985342011-12-12T02:01:35.862+11:002011-12-12T02:01:35.862+11:00Hello Helen:
This is a very interesting account wh...Hello Helen:<br />This is a very interesting account which you give here and, in these divisive times, it is apposite to make mention of such past events.<br /><br />We do tend to agree that the reluctance of the establishment to deal with the Fascist movement could well be based on the fact that so many of the movement's members were linchpins within that very establishment.<br /><br />We are sure that you know that Arnold Wesker's play 'Chicken Soup with Barley' takes this very incident as its theme.Jane and Lance Hattatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16831890261259302647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-72234002669597865542011-12-11T22:31:35.560+11:002011-12-11T22:31:35.560+11:00Andrew
sometimes I creep myself out with timing!!...Andrew<br /><br />sometimes I creep myself out with timing!!! _Tonight_ I saw a pre-recorded programme on Mosley on the History Channel called Betrayal.... well worth watching. Of course it was too late for my blog post, but I can always add more data. <br /><br />For a long summary of the Mosley programme, see<br />http://www.historychannel.com.au/tv-shows/episodes.aspx?id=948Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-59127067075338523792011-12-11T21:17:50.426+11:002011-12-11T21:17:50.426+11:00And then tonight's Upstairs Downstairs continu...And then tonight's Upstairs Downstairs continues the theme. Your timing really was impeccable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-83259679412193702002011-12-11T10:58:58.571+11:002011-12-11T10:58:58.571+11:00lostpastremembered
agreed. The best place to reme...lostpastremembered<br /><br />agreed. The best place to remember a story is not in obscure academic history conferences but in popular television programmes and magazines.<br /><br />So although I didn't necessarily agree with the conclusions, I was very grateful for "The Myth of Cable Street" by Daniel Tilles in History Today, Vol 61, 2011.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-63450288539746530912011-12-11T10:52:11.047+11:002011-12-11T10:52:11.047+11:00Anon,
Of course it is important to preserve and p...Anon,<br /><br />Of course it is important to preserve and protect the old buildings, but I cannot see where all the money will come from. <br /><br />There is some good news. Have a look at the great work done by The Spitalfields Trust which bought crumbling Regency houses in Whitechapel and rebuilt them observing strict conservation rules.<br /><br />http://melbourneblogger.blogspot.com/2011/01/59-brick-lane-spitalfields-christian.htmlHelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-52394433499891283762011-12-11T06:54:37.652+11:002011-12-11T06:54:37.652+11:00That's a great story... didn't remember it...That's a great story... didn't remember it if I ever knew it. <br /><br />It's a story that should be told. Whenever things get lopsided as they are now, the ground is fertile for such horrid movements. Instead of struggling together to bring everyone up, divide and conquer... pit unfortunate against unfortunate for scraps... take the gold. It has worked throughout history.Deana Sidneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14908407077861396161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-90355589780451427412011-12-11T01:58:40.397+11:002011-12-11T01:58:40.397+11:00The Jewish Roots Tour of the East End was well wor...The Jewish Roots Tour of the East End was well worthwhile, as was the mural. But the old town hall looks a bit sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-47130257573762801202011-12-11T00:29:24.895+11:002011-12-11T00:29:24.895+11:00Andrew
timing is everything!!! The Ruth Blatt sto...Andrew<br /><br />timing is everything!!! The Ruth Blatt story, and her connection to London and Melbourne, was perfect for this post. I am glad you heard the podcast.<br /><br />My grandparents were so proud of "our" success in Cable St. For the first time, ordinary working people stood up against the Fascist thugs and won. It was a huge story.<br /><br />But as Daniel Tilles suggested, the success for short term, big on symbolism and short on political substance.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-29653329010912713972011-12-11T00:17:57.030+11:002011-12-11T00:17:57.030+11:00Hermes
thank you :)
The Cable Street Group celeb...Hermes<br /><br />thank you :)<br /><br />The Cable Street Group celebrated the 75th Anniversary of the Battle of Cable Street on 2nd October 2011, almost 75 years to the day. It must have been an amazing anniversary - I do hope some of the original participants of the Battle were there, still alive and well.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-17460515272886612652011-12-10T21:02:08.867+11:002011-12-10T21:02:08.867+11:00Beautifully distilled Hels. I knew a little of the...Beautifully distilled Hels. I knew a little of the Battle of Cable Street. I am going to print your post out. Funnily just today I was listening to a radio podcast about Ruth Blatt. I guess you know who she was. When she arrived in England and was looking for accommodation, her landlady was happy to have her as a guest, as long as she was not Irish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-70680913652186253762011-12-10T20:58:48.162+11:002011-12-10T20:58:48.162+11:00I love that mural by the way. There is a very good...I love that mural by the way. There is a very good web site with great pictures:<br /><br />http://www.battleofcablestreet.org.uk/<br /><br />I can't cut and paste this but this is a very good book:<br /><br />http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=aRyU6R693SwC&pg=PA340&lpg=PA340&dq=cable+street+conspiracy&source=bl&ots=HV6TWrZJdZ&sig=lDousO6xYoBRhzcMikIHc5jGu5A&hl=en&ei=4SzjTvHAOYGWhQe8oIDmAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=falseHermeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968366076064269729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-85363789826983359672011-12-10T20:31:57.954+11:002011-12-10T20:31:57.954+11:00Hermes
that the Fascists would want to march thro...Hermes<br /><br />that the Fascists would want to march through the area that had the most immigrants, socialists, Jews, Irish and working class people shouldn't surprise anyone.<br /><br />That the government ignored a petition calling for the Fascists’ march to be banned in the streets where ordinary people lived with their families is still shocking.<br /><br />I realise the police were just obeying orders. But the baton charges were on local citizens who barricaded their own streets. Who gave the orders to pull down the barricades into the private streets and to allow the Fascists in? Who allowed local residents and policemen to be injured but the Fascists escaped untouched.<br /><br />75 years later and there are still answered missing.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.com