tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post4492834443776038070..comments2024-03-29T15:04:20.549+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: Moulin Rouge, cancan and Paris' belle epoque - oh la laHelshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-11733938546640223682018-07-03T23:20:07.645+10:002018-07-03T23:20:07.645+10:00grace
we are born when and where we are born, and...grace<br /><br />we are born when and where we are born, and have no say in the matter. But if I had my druthers, I think I would have chosen Paris during La Belle Epoque! Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-38710469509469171302018-07-03T14:48:35.254+10:002018-07-03T14:48:35.254+10:00Very nice Helen,full of information Very nice Helen,full of information Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-66647605818566158362018-03-29T11:04:15.360+11:002018-03-29T11:04:15.360+11:00Joseph
In 1852, when the medical discoverer of al...Joseph<br /><br />In 1852, when the medical discoverer of alcoholism, Magnus Huss, was being honoured by the Academie franqaise, he wrote that wrote that "France has many drunkards, but happily, no alcoholics." But that was seen to change during the Belle Epoque. The development of alcoholism was seen to come with the abrogation of the laws controlling the establishment of drinking cabarets and cafes, so that after 1880 it was possible for anyone to open a such a place simply by going to the police station and filling out the necessary forms.<br /><br />See PE Prestwich, French Workers and the Temperance Movement<br />Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-49725960551274368742018-03-29T10:52:36.664+11:002018-03-29T10:52:36.664+11:00bazza
La Belle Epoque is usually dated from after...bazza<br /><br />La Belle Epoque is usually dated from after the disastrous Franco-Prussian War (ended 1871) until the even more disastrous start of WW1 (1914). It was a nostalgic era, looking back to a period of learning, science, elegance and art, so rococo images like Fragonard's The Swing (1767) must have been very pretty, peaceful and appealing.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-85110648559180571052018-03-29T10:47:07.200+11:002018-03-29T10:47:07.200+11:00CherryPie
In October 1889, the Moulin Rouge opene...CherryPie<br /><br />In October 1889, the Moulin Rouge opened in the Jardin de Paris, at the foot of the Montmartre hill. From the photo (https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/290622982173822333/) it looked more suitable for a hot summer outing, and more woman-friendly.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-82006324514538444262018-03-29T09:46:17.871+11:002018-03-29T09:46:17.871+11:00Wild music, frantic dancers, enthusiastic audience...Wild music, frantic dancers, enthusiastic audiences sound like a lot of booze to me. The temperance movement must have been horrified by the belle epoque.Josephnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-76496324414570833652018-03-29T05:44:52.105+11:002018-03-29T05:44:52.105+11:00This is certainly a more uplifting post than "...This is certainly a more uplifting post than "Can a lonely butcher become a mass murderer?"!<br />(On which I have just commented).<br />There is something appealing about La Belle Epoque, which still lingers today when we think of Gay Paree! Fragonard's The Swing would have been an earlier pointer to those naughty Parisennes....<br /><b><a href="http://todiscoverice.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"> CLICK HERE for Bazza’s meretricious Blog ‘To Discover Ice’</a></b>bazzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794010156639774028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-82200315784669539752018-03-29T05:25:26.513+11:002018-03-29T05:25:26.513+11:00I had not heard of the Jardin de Paris before.I had not heard of the Jardin de Paris before.CherryPiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11788084724907992076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-64006945307975768752018-03-28T12:17:20.428+11:002018-03-28T12:17:20.428+11:00mem
It is so interesting that dancers were origin...mem<br /><br />It is so interesting that dancers were originally males; I am guessing because if women danced, the church and politicians would have hated their wiggles and risqué underwear. In fact men some men even toured Europe as dancing stars, and made a living doing it. <br /><br />But women displayed the real Bohemian feeling, the colour and the exotic nature of the dances better than men. The women were experienced dancers, but the nightclubs and cabarets gave them a new freedom to perform to wider audiences.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-45160255468708545842018-03-28T12:05:25.613+11:002018-03-28T12:05:25.613+11:00Andrew
right! Unless we know Orpheus in the Under...Andrew<br /><br />right! Unless we know Orpheus in the Underworld, the operetta by Jacques Offenbach, probably none of us would have ever heard the name The Infernal Galop. This work emerged in 1858, perhaps the first classical full-length operetta ever, yet it became huge from cancan only later. <br /><br />Sometimes a theme emerges in one context and later changes to another.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-60945778571930827972018-03-28T11:35:34.755+11:002018-03-28T11:35:34.755+11:00Thats better Hels . I was in Paris a year ago and ...Thats better Hels . I was in Paris a year ago and was surprised at how small the Moulin Rouge is .It would be interesting to know the back ground of the dancers . were they women of the night or were they dancers who just performed to the best of their ability . I have a friend who was a dancer at The Follies in the 1980s . He remembers very hard work and a lot of discipline . He now works as a news agent . memhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05520080648914042943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-42148084233466744402018-03-28T11:32:54.819+11:002018-03-28T11:32:54.819+11:00Infernal Galop was the perfect name for that very ...Infernal Galop was the perfect name for that very well known music. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-28028287356331003402018-03-28T08:46:42.192+11:002018-03-28T08:46:42.192+11:00Parnassus
I remembered the influence of Japonisme...Parnassus<br /><br />I remembered the influence of Japonisme on Paris and Vienna, but I forgot when Edmund de Waal's relative acquired the netsukes. Perfect timing - 1870s and 1880s.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-38518670858829034372018-03-28T08:43:35.234+11:002018-03-28T08:43:35.234+11:00Ex Pat
I forgot to mention the changing legislati...Ex Pat<br /><br />I forgot to mention the changing legislations on public performances in Paris. They were relaxed in 1867, for example, allowing costumes and dialogue in places other than formal theatres. And alcohol was soon allowed in musical halls etc.<br /><br />It is easy to imagine single young British men flooding into Paris, in groups, to see the petticoats and legs :)Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-1940636720773753762018-03-27T21:59:08.381+11:002018-03-27T21:59:08.381+11:00Hello Hels, A while ago you recommended the book ...Hello Hels, A while ago you recommended the book The Hare with Amber Eyes. The part of the book that takes place in fin de siècle Paris ties in with this post perfectly while giving another viewpoint. It especially introduces the element of Japonisme, and how it influenced 'modern' artists and private citizens alike, while also introducing the collection of Japanese netsuke that drives the story.<br />--JimParnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-68946863948901376842018-03-27T21:27:29.733+11:002018-03-27T21:27:29.733+11:00No wonder there were so many panting young English...No wonder there were so many panting young Englishmen visiting the Moulin Rouge. Censorship in public performances at home vs blatant sexuality in Paris.Ex Patnoreply@blogger.com