tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post2866697948206411924..comments2024-03-28T22:50:02.315+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: Guernica by Picasso: anti-war in general or pro-Republican specifically?Helshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-74588243159829160762018-08-30T17:01:20.631+10:002018-08-30T17:01:20.631+10:00mem
exactly. President Trump defended the white n...mem<br /><br />exactly. President Trump defended the white nationalists who protested in Charlottesville in 2017, saying they included “some very fine people,” while expressing sympathy for their cause. He argued “You had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. The press has treated them absolutely unfairly. What about the alt-left that came charging at, as you say, at the alt-right? Do they have any semblance of guilt?” <br /><br />I find pro-neo Nazi views as repugnant today as all decent people felt about the Nazis before and during WW2. And after the war!Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-88533337351695500632018-08-30T16:27:33.145+10:002018-08-30T16:27:33.145+10:00Yes I once saw and Insight program on SBS about p...Yes I once saw and Insight program on SBS about people who had war criminals as relatives .and Eric and his brother were there . They =were actually trying to argue that we should all be grateful to uncle Otto because he persuaded Adolph to spare Paris because it was such a beautiful city . An interesting way of looking at the situation dont you think?memhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05520080648914042943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-61214758988592876582018-08-30T11:40:25.807+10:002018-08-30T11:40:25.807+10:00Joseph
yes! Guernica was exhibited at the Spanish...Joseph<br /><br />yes! Guernica was exhibited at the Spanish display in the 1937 World's Fair in Paris. But there was nothing in the mural to suggest where the destruction happened. Nor was there any overtly political imagery on show.<br /><br />So the Pavilion's entrance presented an enormous photographic mural of Republican soldiers, a pro-Republican poem and and two pro-Republican art works. Just to make it clear.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-81597425900567878662018-08-29T22:41:17.159+10:002018-08-29T22:41:17.159+10:00So, was Guernica displayed at the 1937 World Fair ...So, was Guernica displayed at the 1937 World Fair in Paris? Any other of his works or his mates' works?Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07701188167981018244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-37916216845099677922018-08-29T21:55:28.462+10:002018-08-29T21:55:28.462+10:00Andrew
Eric Abetz was the German-born great-nephe...Andrew<br /><br />Eric Abetz was the German-born great-nephew of a very important General during the 1940-44 era. General Abetz was definitely gaoled for a long time for his crimes against Paris Jewry. And Mirka Mora's family certainly hid in Paris back then!<br /><br />As much as I dislike Eric Abetz's politics, I doubt that he ever met dear old uncle Otto. Howver it shows that this world is a VERY small place.<br /><br />Now for a related question. For someone who painted so-called degenerate art in WW2 Paris, I wonder why Picasso didn't go into hiding.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-37309301732727328982018-08-29T19:57:25.737+10:002018-08-29T19:57:25.737+10:00He was a person of his time and perhaps, almost, c...He was a person of his time and perhaps, almost, can be forgiven for his liking of bullfighting. I can't see that he was involved with Franco government patronage at all, which is good. Btw, did you see anywhere that Mirka Mora's family was sent to a concentration camp by an antecedent of Senator Eric Abetz? That really does not surprise me. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-58082984891133321932018-08-29T16:15:33.321+10:002018-08-29T16:15:33.321+10:00Parnassus
I must admit that with Picasso, I didn&...Parnassus<br /><br />I must admit that with Picasso, I didn't even think of whether he behaved really badly or not. He did! But that still leaves us asking if Picasso had any specific moral, political or aesthetic values that he wanted to express in his art.<br /><br />Yes, thoughts about artistic merit do depend on the individual viewer. But I have a specific problem re Picasso. I really loved his early works eg Man in a Beret, 1895; Portrait of Artist’s Mother, 1896; The Wait (Margot), 1900 and into the Blue Period.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-45534970926724097842018-08-29T14:35:29.656+10:002018-08-29T14:35:29.656+10:00Hello Hels, We have had this type of discussion b...Hello Hels, We have had this type of discussion before in your blog--separating artistic works from the beliefs and personality of the artist himself (Dickens, Wagner, and so forth). I do find that after a certain point, artistic merit no longer outweighs personal deficiencies, but of course that line is drawn differently for each observer. Picasso was hugely popular, thus representing his era, although sometimes to the point of self-parody or kitsch.<br />--JimParnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-87536533899972352502018-08-29T13:06:20.653+10:002018-08-29T13:06:20.653+10:00mem
Picasso absolutely knew he was misogynistic, ...mem<br /><br />Picasso absolutely knew he was misogynistic, that he abused women and that he actively created an imbalance of power in his famous artist-muse relationships. He didn't care! That is what men who cultivate cult-like worship turn out like.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-31296449821290559762018-08-29T11:11:14.030+10:002018-08-29T11:11:14.030+10:00He might have been a genius but he was also one of...He might have been a genius but he was also one of the biggest A holes ( I channeling my sons here ) who lived in the last century . His misogyny was awful and in fact maybe he was aware of it to a degree as he certainly understood hypermasculinity . He was a negligent father and exacted a psychological violence on the women he allegedly loved ( if he was capable of it ) . At this point in time I find it hard to see his art in anything other than that context .memhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05520080648914042943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-71299973903761751022018-08-29T09:47:48.600+10:002018-08-29T09:47:48.600+10:00Hilary
all war is hideous but I think civil war i...Hilary<br /><br />all war is hideous but I think civil war is even worse. As you say, families are irrevocably split, neighbours can't be trusted any more, people go into exile and dictators arise out of the rubble. <br /><br />Two of my mother's first cousins travelled to Spain from Australia to fight for the Republicans! Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-7723282324723658552018-08-29T09:43:45.478+10:002018-08-29T09:43:45.478+10:00Deb
Women dominated, yes. Picasso had two wives ...Deb <br /><br />Women dominated, yes. Picasso had two wives and multiple mistresses who all appeared in his paintings eg French artist and model Fernande Olivier; cabaret performer Gabrielle Depreye Lespinesse; Russian ballerina Olga Khoklova etc.<br /><br />No wonder when Spanish Republican Government commissioned him to produce a mural for the Spanish Pavilion of the 1937 Paris World’s Fair, he was searching for a suitable theme.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-3890218111523639362018-08-29T05:13:47.600+10:002018-08-29T05:13:47.600+10:00Hi Hels - I wish I was in London now to see the ex...Hi Hels - I wish I was in London now to see the exhibition ... some friends went at the weekend. I know families were split with their allegiances ... some came to England rather than fight ... thanks for this excellent review ... cheers HilaryHilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-25466019710127637802018-08-28T21:30:01.783+10:002018-08-28T21:30:01.783+10:00Picasso might have been a genius, but what we noti...Picasso might have been a genius, but what we notice most is the self advertising. And women, of course.Debnoreply@blogger.com