tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post2591228762794029065..comments2024-03-29T15:04:20.549+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: Haberfield: a VERY early Garden City in Sydney (1901)Helshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-52393584613579163272017-01-22T17:51:26.625+11:002017-01-22T17:51:26.625+11:00Andrew
once the suburb went on the National Herit...Andrew<br /><br />once the suburb went on the National Heritage Register, were all the original (and nearly original) houses saved? I have seen historical treasures (in Melbourne, I must admit) bulldozed by nasty developers at 3 am, before the authorities can stop the destruction.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-1610211803840461702017-01-22T15:36:23.054+11:002017-01-22T15:36:23.054+11:00I live in haberfield! In a California bungalow (I ...I live in haberfield! In a California bungalow (I think) I rent as the quarter acre block-Australian dream costs 2 million around here. This blog was very informative! Great work! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11696337474597664891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-70839353449924791412015-08-06T17:03:24.667+10:002015-08-06T17:03:24.667+10:00Ann
In all the posts where I discussed planned or...Ann<br /><br />In all the posts where I discussed planned or garden cities for workers, I can remember mentioning Bournville in Birmingham ONLY in comparison to Port Sunlight. Shame on me... because your link mentioned all the important issues I was trying to highlight: a rural clean feel, a tenth of the estate laid out as green recreation space, factory employment close at hand, decent conditions for workers, small but decent housing, education for the children and nursing care for all.<br /><br />So thank you. The Cadbury Brothers were very smart.<br />http://melbourneblogger.blogspot.com.au/2011/11/port-sunlight-model-village-for-lever.html<br /><br />Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-46556643769482723692015-08-06T13:56:58.767+10:002015-08-06T13:56:58.767+10:00In 1879 George and Richard Cadbury, makers of choc...<br />In 1879 George and Richard Cadbury, makers of chocolate and cocoa moved their factory from the city centre to the healthier environment of the ... <a href="http://bournvillevillagecouncil.org.uk/history-of-bourvnille/" rel="nofollow">to provide affordable housing in VERY pleasant surroundings </a>Ann ODynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01159263330547329077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-37490159305373647962015-08-06T13:51:39.588+10:002015-08-06T13:51:39.588+10:00Was just at this blog [as a result of Highriser po...<a href="http://www.scoutingny.com/about-that-little-townhouse-on-sixth-avenue/" rel="nofollow">Was just at this blog</a> [as a result of Highriser posting his photo of a bungalow on a rooftop in Manhattan] and thought 'oh Hels would enjoy this'. I did.Ann ODynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01159263330547329077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-70756325834330635072015-03-08T18:22:50.521+11:002015-03-08T18:22:50.521+11:00Parnassus
of course the Cleveland suburbs are muc...Parnassus<br /><br />of course the Cleveland suburbs are much, much nicer :) But there is another thing I need to ask you. <br /><br />Most of the planned garden suburbs that I have found around the world were designed following the creation of Letchworth eg 1899till the end of WW1. This includes Shaker Heights, as you mentioned. But Greenhills was a response to the Depression, designed in the ?late 1930s. Perhaps that was a slightly different movement.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-35995518494073833422015-03-08T04:27:49.447+11:002015-03-08T04:27:49.447+11:00Hi again, Cleveland is very far from Cincinnati a...Hi again, Cleveland is very far from Cincinnati and Dayton, so I am not too familiar with that part of the state. I did look at the link on your earlier article, and all pride aside, I still have to say that the Cleveland suburbs are much, much nicer. My next trip home I will try to take some characteristic photos and post them. --JimParnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-6860735246729015972015-03-07T23:53:49.109+11:002015-03-07T23:53:49.109+11:00Parnassus
Of course *slaps forehead* I should hav...Parnassus<br /><br />Of course *slaps forehead* I should have mentioned the two Ohio garden suburbs I already knew about in this blog:<br />1. Greenmont in Dayton and 2. Greenhills near Cincinnati <br />http://melbourneblogger.blogspot.com.au/2009/01/garden-cities.html<br /><br />Have these Ohio garden suburbs been successfully preserved to this day by heritage overlays? (I am not familiar with the social deed restrictions you mentioned, at least not in writing.)Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-75076349746202460282015-03-07T23:41:39.401+11:002015-03-07T23:41:39.401+11:00Jim
I am very pleased the modern residents of Hab...Jim<br /><br />I am very pleased the modern residents of Haberfield are still as houseproud as the first generation of residents had been. As long as the Heritage Council regulations are complied with inside private property and The Development Control Plan does the right thing in public spaces, renovations are perfectly acceptable.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-8386384225014588032015-03-07T20:54:43.156+11:002015-03-07T20:54:43.156+11:00Hello Hels, Haberfield looks like a great area jus...Hello Hels, Haberfield looks like a great area just to drive around and look at all the different houses. Cleveland, Ohio in the early 20th century developed by the garden suburb plan, especially Shaker Heights (and parts of Cleveland Heights), still a great place to explore with beautiful houses, mature trees, and winding streets. As in Australia, there are many architectural rules meant to protect the appearance of the neighborhood. Unfortunately, along with these went social deed restrictions, now long illegal, which stated that the owners were not permitted to sell the houses to blacks, Jews, or Catholics. <br />--JimParnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-26674068541387516162015-03-07T19:39:27.117+11:002015-03-07T19:39:27.117+11:00Hels, I've looked at a few houses in this area...Hels, I've looked at a few houses in this area. Most of them are well maintained or restored. Sometimes residents built modern extensions at the back of the existing buildings but retain the original house at the front. Usually these are not too bad.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16361781616939928650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-987181947651244072015-03-07T18:20:53.106+11:002015-03-07T18:20:53.106+11:00Joe
as fearful as the bubonic plague was in Sydne...Joe<br /><br />as fearful as the bubonic plague was in Sydney, my feeling was that it only came off ships once in the city's entire history and that was in 1900. Yes there was an urgent need for urban renewal and population movement to the suburbs, but that would have occurred even without the bubonic plague.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-73005333898748219912015-03-07T10:39:55.478+11:002015-03-07T10:39:55.478+11:00Despite living in Sydney, I didn't know about ...Despite living in Sydney, I didn't know about the bubonic plague. But now I read that when the plague hit in the early 1900s, it became a catalyst for a program of urban renewal in The Rocks and Millers Point area. The government used fear to confirm long-held perceptions that The Rocks was dirty and overcrowded. 3800 houses, buildings and wharves were soon inspected and hundreds demolished.<br /><br />No wonder people moved out into cleaner, greener areas.<br /><br /><br />Joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-52537029552213742922015-03-07T09:42:26.466+11:002015-03-07T09:42:26.466+11:00Andrew
if a family can afford it, it would be wor...Andrew<br /><br />if a family can afford it, it would be worth every penny. This is living, and protecting the Australian dream.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-55704479725540100832015-03-07T09:39:10.953+11:002015-03-07T09:39:10.953+11:00Jim
I lived in a late Victorian-early Federation ...Jim<br /><br />I lived in a late Victorian-early Federation home in StKilda for years and loved it. The trouble was the matching homes on either side had been pulled down for ugly blocks of flats :( Haberfield was very wise, protecting its original homes.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-29742075061399278202015-03-07T09:33:38.122+11:002015-03-07T09:33:38.122+11:00Although they can't have their appearance sign...Although they can't have their appearance significantly altered, I think people pay a premium price to own one within the area. Very interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-61634233025669118472015-03-07T08:37:07.482+11:002015-03-07T08:37:07.482+11:00The Federation architecture here is so beautiful.The Federation architecture here is so beautiful.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16361781616939928650noreply@blogger.com