tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post2538753029840480624..comments2024-03-29T15:04:20.549+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: Did France accept desperate Spanish Civil War asylum seekers in 1936-44?Helshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-16720325894638634672017-05-09T11:13:30.996+10:002017-05-09T11:13:30.996+10:00mem
so true :( As late as 2014, in Belfast newspa...mem<br /><br />so true :( As late as 2014, in Belfast newspapers reported, the Republican dead were being commemorated at the Catholic cemetery in political speeches by key historical figures, particularly during the numerous festivals ever Easter Sunday. In the last 30 years, funerals were often surrounded by a ring of Royal Ulster Constabulary and Army Riot Squads. The 1988 attack by Protestant Loyalists on Republican mourners was reported in the world's media.<br /><br />In 2014 they were still citing the armed insurrection in Ireland during Easter Week in April 1916. Divisiveness from the Irish War of Independence (1919–1921) and the Irish Civil War (1922-1923) still embitters the great grandchildren.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-6581693422470113322017-05-08T13:44:04.859+10:002017-05-08T13:44:04.859+10:00I have a friend who was a victim of this war and e...I have a friend who was a victim of this war and ended up spending her entire early life in Paris before she emigrated to Australia . Her siblings were scattered between Spain and France . her parents suffered greatly due to the trauma of war . Happily they have recovered property in Spain and are now spending time with family they couldn't really see during the Franco era . The whole split in Spanish society must have been very bitter as family members were often on opposing sides. I understand that there is still a great deal of pain , I guess that i the nature of a civil war and why they are particularly awful. memhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05520080648914042943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-82534746222601546452017-05-06T23:14:48.358+10:002017-05-06T23:14:48.358+10:00Parnassus
in wars _between_ nations, the hatred a...Parnassus<br /><br />in wars _between_ nations, the hatred and destruction continued until that particular war ended and new alliances were formed. Britain fought with the Dutch against the Spanish, with the Germans against the French, with the French and Italians against the Germans, and with the French against the Germans and Italians. Russia helped liberate Germany in 1812-15 in the Napoleonic Wars, and were often close allies, until WW1 and WW2 when they were bitter enemies.<br /><br />But civil wars were much worse. The bitterness and the need for revenge was a legacy that was handed down for generations of co-citizens eg civil wars in Spain, USA and Britain, and the Russian and French Revolutions. Decades after Franco’s troops launched a military uprising against the elected Republican government in 1936, there are few Spanish museums dedicated to telling the full story of the civil war. And very few civil war curricula for high school history students.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-30295984026043975692017-05-06T18:34:04.084+10:002017-05-06T18:34:04.084+10:00Hello Hels, I have always read of the bloody natu...Hello Hels, I have always read of the bloody nature of the U.S. Civil War, and of the ruthless goings-on during the aftermath Reconstruction period. However, all this seems relatively civilized compared to later events in Europe. The turning over of Spanish refugees to the Germans seems almost unbelievable--perhaps this was not entirely voluntary on the part of the French. It seems that the more we read about most supposedly civilized countries, the more brutal they show their true colors when push comes to shove.Parnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-39285423600623582892017-05-06T12:35:31.954+10:002017-05-06T12:35:31.954+10:00Joseph
the population of Spain in 1936 was 32.7 ...Joseph <br /><br />the population of Spain in 1936 was 32.7 million, but by 1939 it had fallen to 25.6 million. During the three years of the Civil War, huge numbers of soldiers on both sides had been killed in action and there were many other losses due to disease, starvation and people fleeing Spain into exile.<br /><br />However the massacres of specifically Republican workers, civilians and intellectuals continued, _after_ Franco ended the Civil War. As we noted, nearly half a million fled Spain altogether and 60,000 fought with the French Resistance in WW2. <br /><br />It was the Republicans who stayed in Spain after 1939 that suffered the worst. They were denied jobs and therefore incomes, babies were taken from Republican mothers and given to Franco-supporters, trade unions and workers' rights were banned, 270,000 were imprisoned and 50,000 executions of the Enemies of the State went ahead without trials. I would not have stayed in Spain :(Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-31518719367650154852017-05-06T11:09:20.251+10:002017-05-06T11:09:20.251+10:00Did any Republicans stay in Spain after the Civil ...Did any Republicans stay in Spain after the Civil War ended? What happened to them?Josephnoreply@blogger.com