tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post1551725739175978209..comments2024-03-28T22:50:02.315+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: Barcelona, Hemingway and absintheHelshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-57705312423075764312012-08-04T13:01:44.942+10:002012-08-04T13:01:44.942+10:00Andrew
Hey from Hong Kong
No patrons early in th...Andrew<br /><br />Hey from Hong Kong<br /><br />No patrons early in their careers, so I imagine impoverished writers and artists didn't waste money on clothes, food or lodging, spending whatever they had on coffee, booze and absinthe. Bar owners were often very understanding, allowing the young men to pay for their drinks in sketches which could be hung on the walls.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-35684442977967422282012-08-04T12:34:27.151+10:002012-08-04T12:34:27.151+10:00Because of the chandeliers can I assume this was a...Because of the chandeliers can I assume this was always quite formal, as is and was El quatre Gats. Strikes me as odd that the young avant guard artists could afford to imbibe in such places unless they had a patron(s).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-84023971896765127992012-07-24T03:54:24.162+10:002012-07-24T03:54:24.162+10:00I am in Barcelona as we type. The area was seedy a...I am in Barcelona as we type. The area was seedy and has since been gentrified, but I still wouldn't drink absinthe. But the food,.... Oh the food *sigh*Helsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-79120636233726605142011-03-17T17:24:00.919+11:002011-03-17T17:24:00.919+11:00Dianne
You are so right. I only had one month to t...Dianne<br />You are so right. I only had one month to travel around Spain, not nearly long enough. But the evenings were fantastic fun, in tapas bars, wine bars, flamenco performances or walking down La Rambla. Hemingway knew where to celebrate life!Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-33111115168254794882011-03-17T13:17:39.798+11:002011-03-17T13:17:39.798+11:00Looks like a great place - I can imagine Ernest si...Looks like a great place - I can imagine Ernest sitting there with absinthe in hand.<br />I saw that wonderful Degas painting in the Musee d'Orsay last year & loved it.Diannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02806482148547283594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-76908201207673069352011-03-16T22:54:09.893+11:002011-03-16T22:54:09.893+11:00Dina
There are many joys from blogging. It occurs...Dina<br /><br />There are many joys from blogging. It occurs to me, for example, that we may know a great deal about certain subjects, but the writing up of articles _and_ receiving responses from readers are the two blogging tasks that pull it all together. <br /><br />I know Spain very well; ditto Hemingway, Wilde, Van Gogh, Degas and Toulouse-Lautrec. But the Bar Marsella, the belle epoque, absinthe ritual and Hemingway's books made for a special era in modern history.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-74140114310260040072011-03-16T20:15:46.823+11:002011-03-16T20:15:46.823+11:00What an interesting and unusual post (and comments...What an interesting and unusual post (and comments too).<br /><br />Helen, thanks for your good question about when Gilad was last seen. I answered with a link to the video of him.Dinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03461925401870320466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-85052074683449557602011-03-16T15:29:08.615+11:002011-03-16T15:29:08.615+11:00Lord Cowell
many thanks.
All the pictures I have ...Lord Cowell<br />many thanks.<br /><br />All the pictures I have seen of modern absinthe drinkers show happy, social, talkative groups; not derelict loners staring at their inner soul. <br /><br />Your explanation, that the hallucinogenic components of the original drink have been removed, would account for this.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-16666149463004177122011-03-16T14:45:54.809+11:002011-03-16T14:45:54.809+11:00The modern drink of absinthe, in the west, bears l...The modern drink of absinthe, in the west, bears little resemblance to the original excepting the over all flavour of the original drink (and its incredibly high alcohol content). Many substances, like Wormwood, a hallucinogenic component of the original drink, have been banned and are available only in certain eastern countries, and some more liberal western countries such as the Netherlands. I have had absinthe myself a few times, the best being in Prague, but alas, I was not touched by the green fairy!Lord Cowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08022567039394790375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-82598210673208950372011-03-16T10:07:13.138+11:002011-03-16T10:07:13.138+11:00Chris,
hope you feel fighting fit :)
The spoons y...Chris,<br />hope you feel fighting fit :)<br /><br />The spoons you refer to seem to have been very elegantly designed and crafted. The drinking glasses were of a special shape and beauty, as were the carafes, sugar pots, fountains and other items used in the ritual. <br /><br />Even the more commercial objects (advertising posters and bottle labels) could have come directly from the sublime hand of Alphonse Mucha. Life copying the arts?Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-35642089853619905512011-03-16T09:59:04.894+11:002011-03-16T09:59:04.894+11:00Billback
What a great thought - public ritual and ...Billback<br />What a great thought - public ritual and its role in the group's social life. <br /><br />But even though all the paintings show people drinking in public spaces (restaurants, bars), there seems to be a sort of isolation around the individual drinkers. As if they were being contemplative and creative in their own private space.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-37566853947592242232011-03-16T09:53:12.340+11:002011-03-16T09:53:12.340+11:00Hermes
you may be onto something here. I found so ...Hermes<br />you may be onto something here. I found so many late C19th and early C20th paintings of drinkers, absinthe drinking may have had an interesting relationship with art. <br />Think in the first place of Manet, Picasso at least three times, Degas at least twice, Raffaelli and particularly Viktor Oliva. Plus heaps of other artists whose work we may not be familiar with.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-55992833600155270242011-03-16T04:51:38.581+11:002011-03-16T04:51:38.581+11:00Some believe the ban on absinthe was created large...Some believe the ban on absinthe was created largely by those in the temperance movement. There were certainly mistakes in the "science" about it.<br /><br />Regardless, it reputation sticks, and I always think of the wild scenes in Ken Russell's movie Gothic - supposedly induced by absinthe.<br /><br />Absinthe spoons are popular collectors' items and worth their own attention because of their beauty and often ornate designs.ChrisJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13139508470517226199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-58919707471400014632011-03-16T01:10:54.957+11:002011-03-16T01:10:54.957+11:00Not only a connection with art. If the ritual is i...Not only a connection with art. If the ritual is important, it must be even more important in the company of other people. I think absinthe might be more social and more bohemian than beer or wine.Billbacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-56693200022021714752011-03-15T21:00:30.503+11:002011-03-15T21:00:30.503+11:00What a wonderful bar. I've always suspected th...What a wonderful bar. I've always suspected that the ritual and drinking of absinthe (and no doubt other stimulants) have had more to do with great art than is generally mentioned.Hermeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968366076064269729noreply@blogger.com