tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post1335064705851640003..comments2024-03-29T15:04:20.549+11:00Comments on ART and ARCHITECTURE, mainly: Fatty Arbuckle's three murder trials - 1921 and twice in 1922.Helshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-75207368154939237022022-05-26T16:14:03.109+10:002022-05-26T16:14:03.109+10:00Brian
thank you. Do you think that nothing much h...Brian<br /><br />thank you. Do you think that nothing much has changed between 1921-2 and now?Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-89074195378979149472022-05-26T15:02:44.161+10:002022-05-26T15:02:44.161+10:00wow, your blog is so nice and knowledgeable. I wou...wow, your blog is so nice and knowledgeable. I would like to read more about your blog. by the way we are writing and promoting <a rel="nofollow"> Manslaughter Defence Lawyer </a>. for women safetyBrian Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08670564386511451912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-45447577317390707022016-09-30T11:53:48.922+10:002016-09-30T11:53:48.922+10:00Train Man
I also see something of the campaigns a...Train Man<br /><br />I also see something of the campaigns against unacceptable people in the Salem witch trials, the Arbuckle murder and rape trials, and Senator McCarthy's relentless terror campaign-gaolings-expulsions. <br /><br />What is strange about this comparison is that the Salem witches were weak, female and not young. But Arbuckle was young, successful, famous, male and rich. McCarthy's victims were even more important, scholarly, creative and politically active. So what is the common factor we are missing? And why did McCarthy use sex crimes to attack a number of politicians and others inside Parliament and in public.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-71406175045155189202016-09-29T13:00:00.371+10:002016-09-29T13:00:00.371+10:00The sentence "there was an immediate shunning...The sentence "there was an immediate shunning by Hollywood and all of Arbuckle’s acting roles disappeared" sounds like a religious tract describing those women who had been identified as witches.Train Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-71332645214552274392016-09-28T23:11:17.720+10:002016-09-28T23:11:17.720+10:00Parnassus
thank you. No-one likes being sick, bu...Parnassus <br /><br />thank you. No-one likes being sick, but I especially don't like it. The biggest problem for a blogger is diminished sight. My typing has grammatical and spelling mistakes (which I try never to have) and handwriting that looks like drivel.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-2364402988092949412016-09-28T23:07:20.637+10:002016-09-28T23:07:20.637+10:00Andrew
The entire legal process was so outrageous...Andrew<br /><br />The entire legal process was so outrageous, Fatty Arbuckle suffered miscarriage after miscarriage of justice. Lost his wife. Lost all his bookings already organised for his films. Became impoverished.<br /><br />Towards the end of reading Arbuckle's biography, I was in despair. I really did start being uncertain about Australian commitment to sub judice contempt and the rules of double jeopardy. Possibly we are too naive to notice what is happening here, just as California must have wondered about their legal rights in 1921-2.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-23033475355783271392016-09-28T15:03:06.307+10:002016-09-28T15:03:06.307+10:00Hi again, I'm sorry that you haven't been...Hi again, I'm sorry that you haven't been well. Please take care of yourself and get better soon! --JimParnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-62674622142047422062016-09-28T12:45:51.723+10:002016-09-28T12:45:51.723+10:00While he was acquitted, he still suffered a miscar...While he was acquitted, he still suffered a miscarriage of justice. Our judiciary has to ensure our media does not breach reporting laws and if it happens, the judiciary needs to come down on them like a ton of bricks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-46583751234391971222016-09-28T10:23:58.527+10:002016-09-28T10:23:58.527+10:00bazza
I love the comparison. Alcohol, celebrity, ...bazza<br /><br />I love the comparison. Alcohol, celebrity, money, pretty women and sex sloshed around in both eras (1920-22 and 1950-7). But if the 1950s McCarthy witch hunts were to be truly comparable, I would like to know if Arbuckle held strong political views, kept his political views to himself or could not have cared less about politics. Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-25619293732823047342016-09-28T10:09:48.864+10:002016-09-28T10:09:48.864+10:00Annie
"Too many Americans are emphatic they ...Annie<br /><br />"Too many Americans are emphatic they want to treat Julian Assange back as Arbuckle was treated, so no change". But how many Americans remember the principles of Fatty Arbuckle's case? Do you think the CIA may give lectures to new recruits on stars' sexual behaviour, their personal politics, their friends and associates, where they travel and other private stuff.<br /><br />Actually I am more disgusted with Britain's and Australia's treatment of Assange than I am of the USA's treatment of our Australian citizen.<br />Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-31765287574331812332016-09-28T09:58:19.305+10:002016-09-28T09:58:19.305+10:00Parnassus
there are many cases in legal history w...Parnassus<br /><br />there are many cases in legal history where justice was not done or mistakes were made. I suppose that in many cases, we will never know the true story involved in murder, manslaughter, rape etc cases.<br /><br />So at least if we knew that under the rules of double jeopardy, the retrial of the accused for the same offence would be totally illegal. Was there any concern about the rules of double jeopardy in the 1922 trials? Back in 1922, was there a general belief that Arbuckle was railroaded?<br /><br />Apologies Jim. I have been sick in bed for 6 weeks. My thinking and typing has been jumbled :(<br />Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-31905232045264986582016-09-28T09:44:20.432+10:002016-09-28T09:44:20.432+10:00Deb
Amazing. Since it was 1922 when Fatty Arbuckl...Deb<br /><br />Amazing. Since it was 1922 when Fatty Arbuckle's career and fame came to an end, it was an entire generation before Australian ex-servicemen got back to raise their families during the 1946-52 era. In the meantime, where would the men have seen the old, silent films?Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-25178557752768084372016-09-28T00:36:41.882+10:002016-09-28T00:36:41.882+10:00Hi Hels. I was always vaguely aware of this story ...Hi Hels. I was always vaguely aware of this story so thanks for filling in the details.<br />Like Parnassus, above, my mind went to the McCarthy witch hunts; I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because the prevailing ethos of those times had made it all possible in the 1950s. The story has <i>film noir</i> written all over it!<br />It's a fascinating tale with many unlearned lessons for today.<br /><b><a href="http://todiscoverice.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"> CLICK HERE for Bazza’s fabulous Blog ‘To Discover Ice’</a></b>bazzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794010156639774028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-25189136828184069962016-09-27T21:59:32.236+10:002016-09-27T21:59:32.236+10:00oh dear, that telegram "we have him in a hole...oh dear, that telegram "we have him in a hole and a chance to make money". sleazebags.<br />the CIA also 'saw a chance' in Sweden 2010: and yet the two [disappeared] Swedish women who entertained Julian Assange back then have never ever claimed he raped them. Too many Americans are emphatic they want to treat him as Arbuckle was treated, so no change. Thanks again for another intriguing post.Ann ODynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01159263330547329077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-52538541634705526982016-09-27T20:30:04.913+10:002016-09-27T20:30:04.913+10:00Hello Hels, The general agreement about Arbuckle ...Hello Hels, The general agreement about Arbuckle has always been that he was railroaded. Like the blacklists of the 1950's, once the damage was done, it was difficult to remove.<br /><br />Perhaps some of his films were destroyed, but a great many did survive. When I was growing up, a lot of old Fatty Arbuckle films were shown on TV along with other silent movies. Some are still available now on DVD, so we can still judge his talent and personality.<br />--JimParnassushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08958901307538141468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3067098918914268503.post-54751342939231485482016-09-27T17:29:21.328+10:002016-09-27T17:29:21.328+10:00In the post war years, some parents used to call t...In the post war years, some parents used to call their chubby children "Fatty Arbuckle". Even in Australia.Debnoreply@blogger.com